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re: "She says, 'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant!. . . And I shot her anyway."

Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by ATLsuTiger
Johns Creek
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:50 pm to
What if, and this is a BIG if, her boyfriend/ husband went first two times and forced her along third time? What if there were three different robbers?

Do we know this? If so, I missed it.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7406 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:52 pm to
What if she's done this before and murdered people in the process before? She obviously doesn't have an issue with assaulting someone while committing a crime
Posted by blackmouth
God's Country
Member since May 2014
387 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:53 pm to
Old testament. All thieves should be crucified or guillotined at public square. USA is a nation of poofter whiners these days.
Posted by ATLsuTiger
Johns Creek
Member since Aug 2009
5416 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:54 pm to
I'm not saying that she wasn't in the wrong. She broke into his home! That's shitty. What I AM saying is that this 80 year old, crazy man, murdered her. Aaaaand kinda seemed to enjoy it?! Sorta?! Based on that interview at least.
Posted by ATLsuTiger
Johns Creek
Member since Aug 2009
5416 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:57 pm to
"Assaulting" hmmm. 80 year old people have weak bones. I didn't see cuts or bruises. They pushed and held him down. And according to his interview...not for very long. He was just watching them take his shite. He's guilty just give up.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124276 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

. USA is a nation of poofter whiners these days.




'old up a bit mate.

I'm the 'orrible count what uses the British slang 'round 'ere.


This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 7:01 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150762 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:02 pm to
Sad that the old man wasn't under advisement of an attorney, because that interview will do nothing but hurt him in court. Hopefully a jury will exonerate him from any serious charges, but that interview (unless they can sway the jury otherwise) may end up putting him in jail.
Posted by DevilDogTiger
RTWFY!
Member since Nov 2007
6365 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:05 pm to
Your first question-
quote:

According to the interview, the old man says this was the third time they had been there stealing


Second- I don't really care if it was her first time. If you break into the home of frail elderly man with the intention of robbing him, beat him up enough to break bones, and pin him down while an accomplice breaks into a safe you deserve to be shot and killed.

And C- old people having brittle bones isn't a defense for breaking them while in commission of other felonies.
Posted by ATLsuTiger
Johns Creek
Member since Aug 2009
5416 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:05 pm to
Yes, always sucks when you don't get away with murder. I HATE it when that happens.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

How was this random?



go back and read to understand what we were talking about.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

Sad that the old man wasn't under advisement of an attorney, because that interview will do nothing but hurt him in court. Hopefully a jury will exonerate him from any serious charges, but that interview (unless they can sway the jury otherwise) may end up putting him in jail.


I'm sure the attorney will at least try to have that suppressed, probably a fair to good chance that it will be
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

And C- old people having brittle bones isn't a defense for breaking them while in commission of other felonies.



And a previous crime isn't a defense for putting a 2 bullets in someone who was running away and no longer a threat to you
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

I'm sure the attorney will at least try to have that suppressed, probably a fair to good chance that it will be



What makes you say that?
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7071 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:08 pm to
logically, yes it most definitely is.

legally, it's not.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150762 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

Yes, always sucks when you don't get away with murder. I HATE it when that happens.

I'd say maybe voluntary manslaughter if anything. Not really murder IMO (but I am no judge).
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 7:10 pm
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

logically, yes it most definitely is.



only if YOUR logic dictates that a person is allowed to respond to crimes with lethal force even if you were in no danger of lethal force.

A lot of people don't share that logic though.
Posted by ATLsuTiger
Johns Creek
Member since Aug 2009
5416 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:12 pm to
Old man wasn't there during first two robberies. He has no clue, is my point ;)

And agree to disagree on what they deserved.

Not a defense, just a possible explanation of how easy it was that he broke that bone.

Lawyers will ask, why didn't you run away instead of going for your gun? Were they armed?

Seems too easy to me.
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7071 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:15 pm to
yeh but those people are idiots
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

yeh but those people are idiots




Yep that seems like a rational reaction to people who disagree with you.
Posted by DevilDogTiger
RTWFY!
Member since Nov 2007
6365 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

And a previous crime isn't a defense for putting a 2 bullets in someone who was running away and no longer a threat to you


I'm not arguing future legal rulings. I've just stated I believe he should receive an award for obviously doing society a favor and the female that was shot totally deserved it for preying on the elderly in such a manner.
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