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re: Scientist says he found definitive proof that God exists

Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:16 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:16 am to
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Those that need proof will never truly believe.



That's one of the dumbest sentences I've ever read.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77165 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:17 am to
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Isn't that the guy in the turbo tax commercials...


Looks like Kaku's theory just got shot down.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72225 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:19 am to
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Where does he say God exists? I think that's what people are pointing out. And when you see God. People on here automatically assume they are speaking of Christian beliefs. When he's just saying a higher power may exist. That's all, this is not ground breaking.


That makes no sense whatsoever. Saying that a higher power exists but not god is like saying you have a Chevy Silverado but it's not a truck.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86185 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:20 am to
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Bottom-line is that we all have a choice to either believe and have faith or Not to believe. But for those who choose not to believe, You had better be right. And the ones that do believe and try and live that life, if your wrong then you still led a good life. If nothing else the teachings of Jesus and his posse are most certainly a great design for living ,Spiritually. 



Half the world doesn't believe this though.

People are still waging wars over organized religion.

This is just alluding to a higher power. Doesn't mean it's the God you grew up believing in.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85392 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:21 am to
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Saying that a higher power exists but not god is like saying you have a Chevy Silverado but it's not a truck.


"universal intelligence" could be aliens, a 4th dimensional being, etc

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65378 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:21 am to
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I concluded this at the age of ten. To think otherwise is irrational.


Nah man, it's all luck. No one can explain how the first matter came into existence without a creator...so it makes more sense that it just appeared via magic, then through a series of events less likely than winning the lottery 100 times in your life, the world was created, and we evolved from mud. Poof SCIENCE!
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
2937 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:21 am to
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The theoretical physicist Michio Kaku claims to have developed a theory


The article put that in there and to be honest it's a piss poor word to use to describe his thinking here. He never described his findings as a "theory". In fact these words here....

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“To me it is clear that we exists in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance.”


And

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“I have concluded that we are in a world made by rules created by an intelligence”,


... indicate that in his mind this is not a "theory" but rather a matter of fact. No scientist would use words like "To me it is clear" or "I have concluded" to describe something he views as still being only theoretical.


So you don't understand science or even the vocabulary associated with science, got it.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:21 am to
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You had better be right.




According to who? I'm trying not to be an a-hole in here, but if the Christian god is "right" and I'm supposed to live my life according to the Bible, I'll pass.

I hear this argument a lot. What makes you think I'm not leading a good life? I think I'm leading a better life without religion. I believe that when I die, I'm simply organic material going back into the environment. If I believed I could simply accept an imaginary entity as my "savior" and enjoy eternal happiness, maybe I'm a little bit more of an a-hole.

I agree though, live your life, and I'll live mine. As long as you're happy with that, and can accept that I'm happy as well, we're all good.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15910 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:22 am to
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Saying that a higher power exists but not god


there is a difference btw God and god
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77165 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:23 am to
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an all knowing, omnipresent being that requires us to pray and worship it


Because that is the bullshite religious interpretation layered on top of the real thing. Religion is a system whereby man creates god in the image of man.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103533 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:23 am to
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A person would have to be naive to believe that our fine tuned life on Earth is all by chance.


Of all the countless (literally, we can't count them all) galaxies, systems, and planets out there, it's impossible to think that life as we know it might have evolved by chance on this particular one?

Sure, the odds are unfathomably small, but look at it differently. What are the odds that you were both to your mother and father, at this point in Earth's existence, with the capability of rational thought? Pretty much 0% and 100% at the same time, because it did happen, right?
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:23 am to
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A person would have to be naive to believe that our fine tuned life on Earth is all by chance.


Why?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50497 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:24 am to
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Isn't that the guy in the turbo tax commercials...

"It cost zero"


That's the guy on the Samsung commercials that says

"There's going to be a lot more water"
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72225 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:24 am to
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Those that need proof will never truly believe.


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That's one of the dumbest sentences I've ever read.


No, he's right but the point flew right over your head.

What he's saying is that belief in God (whoever that is to you) requires faith. And faith by definition is the belief in something that cannot be proven. And since there is no way for science to prove who God is, unless one has faith they will never believe in any god.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18548 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:25 am to
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15910 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:25 am to
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Religion is a system whereby man creates god in the image of man.



exactly. pharaohs/kings needed to be worship. A god would not care about an ant bowing down to it
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15842 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:26 am to
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That's one of the dumbest sentences I've ever read.



Yet at its core you know it's true.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:26 am to
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It's almost as if Christians are just as insecure as the rest if not more.


You mean all humans have similar emotional sensibilities? :shocker:
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85392 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:27 am to
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Yet at its core you know it's true.


if someone could prove God, a god, or intelligent creator

I would absolutely believe

how is that statement true?
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13162 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:28 am to
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ut for those who choose not to believe, You had better be right. And the ones that do believe and try and live that life, if your wrong then you still led a good life.


You operating under the impression non believers aren't living good lives? I find myself having equal or better morals than many of my Christian friends.
I do it because I think it's right, without the promise of a reward or a punishment for eternity. They do it for the reward, drawing the implication that were it not for their religion they wouldn't act morally.

Is that really living a good life?
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