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re: Saudi posts record $98 bn deficit in 2015

Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by Martini
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Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:29 pm to
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Exactly. They can run a deficit without borrowing money and paying interest for at least another 4-5 years. They are currently doing what they wanted to do.


This is true but the question really is will they continue or actually how much longer are they willing to continue? 30 oil is going to hurt everyone with possible 20 not far away. It is going to be some interesting times ahead for all.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:31 pm to
The whores and drug dealers in Beverly Hills will not be please to hear this.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28313 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:32 pm to
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Now they'll have to postpone funding the next 9/11.


They are no better than those other loon-tune tablecloth wearing numbnuts.

We should just take the oil, give them some bread and water, pat them on their heads and send them on their way.
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:33 pm to
That really isn't bad at all. The debt per capita is only a few thousand while in the U.S., it's around $58,000 per person.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:36 pm to
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That really isn't bad at all. The debt per capita is only a few thousand while in the U.S., it's around $58,000 per person.


It's not even debt. Its just a deficit for the year. That makes it 100x's worse than the US current situation. They have a surplus which it would take years for us to get back to, if ever.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
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Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:44 pm to
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Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Saudi posts record $98 bn deficit in 2015


That's probably their defense budget for 2015. They spent $80 billion last year which was a 17% increase over 2013. And you know where all that money is going.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/28/15 at 3:01 pm to
Oil is down becaus of Saudis, oil is down because the US has flooded the market. Saudi has produced roughly the same amount over the last decade. The US has has sky rocketed production and hasn't stopped hardly any.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51811 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 3:05 pm to
How can the US "flood the market" when only last week Congress voted to lift the ban on exports?


Global use is down. Global production hasn't matched the use trend. End of discussion.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/28/15 at 3:14 pm to
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How can the US "flood the market" when only last week Congress voted to lift the ban on exports?


it's zero sum

every drop produced here is one less that has to be imported
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65918 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 3:17 pm to

They should drive a Prius.
Posted by arn
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/28/15 at 3:49 pm to
Just put all of my Roth IRA in shares of USO and TRKNT
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42574 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 3:52 pm to
The Saudi's are the fricking worse group of people in the world, and we worry about Iran.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/28/15 at 4:07 pm to
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It's not even debt. Its just a deficit for the year. That makes it 100x's worse than the US current situation. They have a surplus which it would take years for us to get back to, if ever.


You do realize the last time the US was debt free was 200 years ago right? Been running debt since 1835. And since 1838 people have been tearing their clothes, weeping and wailing: "think of the kids!" "how will our children ever repay this burden?".

LINK
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 4:11 pm
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 4:11 pm to
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I wonder if they will continue to give oil away?


they have to. they must capture whatever revenue they can.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

it's zero sum

every drop produced here is one less that has to be imported


Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 4:13 pm to
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How does this compare to the US deficit?

U.S. deficit for 2015 was 439 billion

But our GDP is about 25 x their GDP so there's that.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 4:16 pm to
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You do realize the last time the US was debt free was 200 years ago right?


I do understand that. My point was that the Saudi's aren't hurting even though they are showing a deficit for 2015.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 4:18 pm to
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I do understand that. My point was that the Saudi's aren't hurting even though they are showing a deficit for 2015.



They might not be doing that bad fiscally but their economic outlook the next few years is pretty awful
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105446 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 4:40 pm to
I am sure Obama has paid them more than their deficit to try and kill or O & G industry.
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