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Ross Unversity Med School

Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:14 pm
Posted by ctiger69
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:14 pm
I had a friend was accepted here a couple of years ago. He was turned down by LSU med school numerous times and he was accepted into Ross med school first try. He had an undergrad GPA of 2.9 and scored a 20 on his MCAT. He has another 2 years left until residency.


Has anybody heard of this school? A quick search tells me it is in the Dominica and they basically accept everybody who applies. I think my friend is going to struggle to find a residency once he is finished. But anyways he is trying to tell my other friend, who is smart, to apply for med school at Ross. And I'm saying why would you want to go to a foreign med school especially if you are smart enough to get accepted into a US med school. Can anybody name some advantages?
This post was edited on 3/19/16 at 5:17 pm
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:17 pm to
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Can anybody name some advantages?


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Posted by NIH
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:17 pm to
Get that petro engineering degree, baw.

-OT 2008-2014
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Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:18 pm to
If it is in the Doninican Republic the answer is "NO".

Grenada or Aruba or some other Carribean Medical School?

Maybe.
Posted by Dale Murphy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:19 pm to
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Has anybody heard of this school?


Yes, I know a few people that graduated from there.

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A quick search tells me it is in the Dominican and they basically accept everybody who applies.


Probably not far from the truth.

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I think my friend is going to struggle to find a residency once he is finished.


Depends on how well he does on his Step 1.

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Can anybody name some advantages?


You don't have many breaks and can end up finishing in a little over 3 years if you're fortunate enough to go straight through, but that's the only advantage. I graduated from a Caribbean school and there is more than enough work out there, so much that I'm constantly turning down hours in the ER, etc. If you have a chance to go to a US school, it's a no brainer. But for the non traditional student, like I was, off shore schools provide a great service. But you can't jack around. Screw up on your boards and you'll find yourself working at McDonalds with a medical degree and $300k in debt.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:21 pm to
I know several doctors in Baton Rouge who went there. They are making Doctor cash so I guess it all worked out for them
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:22 pm to
I'd say there are two possible advantages: if you are smart enough to get into a US med school, you could easily be valedictorian; and you're next to the beach on a tropical island all year
Disadvantages: looked down on by doctors and residency programs (much harder to find a residency after than US schools); costs a fortune, it is significantly more expensive than regular med schools (pretty sure it is almost $100k a year tuition, while the average is $50k, and LSU is a mere $22k); out of country most of the year; not sure how rigorous the program is, and not sure how reliable it is to keep its accreditation (this is a challenge for most of the out of country med schools)

I'm pretty sure Ross is the best or 2nd best Caribbean school, but that doesn't stack up well to any US based med school. However you can still work your arse off and be more successful than US med school doctors, you just are at a disadvantage.

And FWIW, we have a poster here at Ross (I think)
Posted by The Last Coco
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:22 pm to
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Can anybody name some advantages?

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in the Dominican


Would be cool to live somewhere else like the Dominican for a few years.

If he does well on Step 1 and Step 2, he will get a residency without any issues. Problem is foreign medical schools don't prepare you as well for Step 1 and 2 and it can be difficult to get loans to attend those schools.

That being said, there are lots of foreign trained doctors in the US. Will he match a competitive field at a top tier program? Not without crushing Step 1, but if he has competitive scores he should be fine in a less competitive field at mid to lower tier residency programs.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:22 pm to
You don't want to go if you get into an MD school. I would go to a DO school before the Caribbean schools as well. With the increase of American schools, residency spots are becoming more scarce. He could easily end up huge debt and nothing to show for it, especially with his abysmal GPA and MCAT. The step exams are not easy, and he'll need good scores to be competitive for a residency spot. While exam scores aren't everything, someone with scores that low has no business in med school. He's there because his check cashed and that's what the school cares about. He may end up being fine, but at a minimum, he's taking a huge gamble.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20152 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:24 pm to
FYI. Dominica and Dominican Republic are not the same place

Dominica

Dominican Republic
This post was edited on 3/19/16 at 4:30 pm
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30584 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:26 pm to
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GPA of 2.9 and scored a 20 on his MCAT

I didn't read these at first. Holy crap. A 2.9 means you averaged more C's than A's. And a 20 is extremely low on the MCAT. LSU New Orleans average accepted scores are a 3.8 GPA and a 29 MCAT
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:27 pm to
My cousin went to an overseas med school and got job at a US hospital in Tennessee.
Dude is a buffoon
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24473 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:28 pm to
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Disadvantages: looked down on by doctors


Meh. Not as much anymore. Before I chose going to an off shore school, I asked many of my dr friends and every one of them told me to do it and don't think twice. I'm sure there are some pretentious docs that only associate with those from top programs but I'd prefer to not work with them anyway.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45052 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:31 pm to
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Disadvantages: looked down on by doctors and residency programs (much harder to find a residency after than US schools)


Disagree. It's not that way anymore.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
10851 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:34 pm to
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Disagree. It's not that way anymore.


Residency programs definitely do care. Doctors, not so much. If anyone cares at all, it's typically where you went for residency, not medical school, since that's really where you get your training.
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24473 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:38 pm to
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Residency programs definitely do care. Doctors, not so much.


Do as many rotations as possible at the hospital that you want to do your residency. Best way for an IMG to get the residency of their choice.

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it's typically where you went for residency, not medical school, since that's really where you get your training.



Could not be more true.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13365 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:39 pm to
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GPA of 2.9 and scored a 20 on his MCAT

I didn't read these at first. Holy crap. A 2.9 means you averaged more C's than A's. And a 20 is extremely low on the MCAT. LSU New Orleans average accepted scores are a 3.8 GPA and a 29 MCAT

Posted by Maverick01
Member since Sep 2015
581 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:39 pm to
Be honest this "friend" is really you lol. Dumb motherfricker. You should have just taken your arse to an Osteopathic school.
Posted by Parallax
Member since Feb 2016
1450 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:42 pm to
Caribbean schools are increasingly becoming a worse idea. There are new US MD schools popping up and virtually every US MD school has increased class sizes (the same is true to an even greater extent for DO schools). This means it will be harder and harder for Caribbean grads to secure residency spots, even primary care spots. A Caribbean grad will have virtually zero chance of matching any specialty that's competitive for US MDs.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
10851 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 4:43 pm to
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Do as many rotations as possible at the hospital that you want to do your residency. Best way for an IMG to get the residency of their choice.



Agreed. This is good advice for anyone that is really interested in a particular program. Most people's stats and CV are going to be right in the middle of the pack. Having the program know your face and know that you're a hard worker is huge when they start to compare you against people they saw during an interview for one day.
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