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Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:11 pm to Auburn1968
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Or if you live off grid with a small electrical energy footprint in a place with a lot of sunshine.
I'm curious how doable this is? Let's say you want to build a small hunting camp that's like 1000 sq of livable space?
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:11 pm to Smeg
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They're not "off limits" - they are currently cost prohibitive. When panels last 60 years, are resistant to damage, and cost $20 each - they'll be a great deal.
I think you and I are agreeing. It shouldn't be off limits, but my issue is people becoming argumentative when questioning the viability of solar and EVs, especially when so much of these are very young, tech wise.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:12 pm to baldona
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I'm curious how doable this is? Let's say you want to build a small hunting camp that's like 1000 sq of livable space?
I run two houses and a barn on a grid connected system that can isolate and has run off grid for weeks on end. The tech is there. Obviously there are a lot of factors to take into account but it’s probably doable if you have a little space for a big enough array.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:13 pm to billjamin
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I have yet to see anyone here post an accurate ROI calc for residential PV.
I might be misremembering, but I'm not going back and read the whole thread, but I don't think anyone questioned the worth from and end user application with subsidies. Just what happens in hurricanes, roof replacements, power outages, stuff like that.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:13 pm to Smeg
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Smeg
I'm done with ya. You are annoying as hell, and childish.
You conceded that point, but then continued to argue for 2 hours about what then?
Jesus Christ, don't talk to me anymore. Ever.
You like that word "Stupid" a lot. I've bet you've heard that word many times.
Again, at least you finally figured it out. Still proud of you!
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:14 pm to SaintEB
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questioning the viability of solar and EVs
They are not currently viable.
There's only the matter of "how much money do we continue to throw at this until we determine if it can be viable or not".
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:14 pm to Smeg
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They are not currently viable.
There's only the matter of "how much money do we continue to throw at this until we determine if it can be viable or not".
Do you think battery powered blowers and weedeaters are viable?
I view a car and a weedeater the same way. They're just tools.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:15 pm to Smeg
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They are not currently viable.
There's only the matter of "how much money do we continue to throw at this until we determine if it can be viable or not".
Are you trying to argue just to argue? I didn't say they were or were not. Just that questioning it should not be a polarizing topic.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:16 pm to i am dan
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Do you think battery powered blowers and weedeaters are viable?
For my personal use, yes they are. I got rid of gas trimmer and blower a few years ago. Ryobi 40V system FTW.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:17 pm to SaintEB
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I don't think anyone questioned the worth from and end user application with subsidies.
I hope you’re right. These threads usually bring out some creative roi math.
Regarding the other points:
Hurricane- use properly rated racking and get someone who knows what they’re doing to install it
Roof replacement- if you have to replace the section under the pv it’s about 2k usually. Or just get it before the pv install and get the FMV boost for the ITC.
Power outage- you need a battery or the system had to power down let NEC
I’ve financed hundreds of thousands of Resi PV systems. I’m happy to answer any legitimate questions. I might be slow to respond because I’m on a mountain this week.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:18 pm to i am dan
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Do you think battery powered blowers and weedeaters are viable?
I think they're shite compared to their gas powered counterparts.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:19 pm to billjamin
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Regarding the other points:
Hurricane- use properly rated racking and get someone who knows that they’re doing to install it
Roof replacement- if you have to replace the section under the of it’s an about 2k usually. Or just get it before the go coming in and get the FMV boost for the ITC.
Power outage- you need a battery of the system had to power down let NEC
That's a lot of acronyms.
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I’ve financed hundreds of thousands of Resi PV systems. I’m happy to answer any legitimate questions.
I'm familiar with you, lol.
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It I might be slow to respond because I’m on a mountain this week.
I'm jealous, unless its cold. Then its all you bud.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:20 pm to Smeg
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I think they're shite compared to their gas powered counterparts.
Just curious, why? What battery power system have you tried? What gas systems have you tried?
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:22 pm to SaintEB
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That's a lot of acronyms.
sorry ITC = investment tax credit
Fmv = fair market value
NEC = national electric code
PV =photovoltaic
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I'm jealous, unless its cold. Then it’s all you bud.
I’m in Tao, it’s 40ish and beautiful. I’m debating on another run or just apre drinks. Leaning towards the latter.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:22 pm to Smeg
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I think they're shite compared to their gas powered counterparts.
Why? What benefit does a gas powered weedeater have over a battery powered weedeater when trimming around a acre lot?
Having to get a gas can filled at the gas station every few weeks? and buying the little oil to add to the gas?
Gas engine breaking down/wearing out?
Water getting in the gas/old gas?
Buying air filters every year?
Which benefit do you like the most? Those are some good ones.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:23 pm to i am dan
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Do you think battery powered blowers and weedeaters are viable?
My battery blower and trimmer do the job just as good as the gas ones I used to use. I have the smaller 2.5 AH battery and can do both using only half the battery each time I do the yard.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:23 pm to nugget
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You don’t have a $50 electric bill in the heat of summer when those comparable to you are at $500.
He lives in a cardboard box. Jokes on you!
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:24 pm to i am dan
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Why? What benefit does a gas powered weedeater have over a battery powered weedeater when trimming around a acre lot?
Having to get a gas can filled at the gas station? and buying the little oil to add to the gas?
Gas engine breaking down/wearing out?
Water getting in the gas/old gas?
Buying air filters every year?
Which benefit do you like the most?
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:37 pm to i am dan
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Which benefit do you like the most? Those are some good ones.
Waking your neighbors up.
They should be up cooking breakfast or something.
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