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re: Robin Williams Dead at 63
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:52 pm to beaverfever
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:52 pm to beaverfever
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How could someone who was apparently so generous and compassionate go to such a dark place and do something so selfish.
Very ignorant post.
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:01 pm to Godfather1
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I think if someone were to tell me that, it would be all I could do not to punch them in the face.
That makes sense ... but it kinda is selfish. Before you punch me let me tell you that I am on medication for depression and anxiety. When the meds start to fail I find myself thinking about ways out of that dark miserable place. During those times I begin to care less about those around me. I become pretty selfish. I don't want to but finding a way out becomes more important than anything else.
Consider this, aren't the people close to me being selfish by wanting me to stay alive and miserable just to be around them??
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:08 pm to Python
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Very ignorant post.
I see a LOT of ignorance in here. I hope none of you get educated on this subject the way I have.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:13 pm to beaverfever
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How could someone who was apparently so generous and compassionate go to such a dark place and do something so selfish.
You don't understand. I hope you never do. Know this, there are good days and bad days. The mind is a complex thing. Just a imbalance in brain chemicals places one in different mental states at different times. We have no control over that.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:36 pm to beaverfever
I hope you never have a suicide in your family.
Selfish isn't a part of it because the person has to be in a frame of mind to distinguish selfish from unselfish. When that person is in a deep dark place, the only thing they can think about is not feeling the pain and they're not thinking rationally about anything.
My cousin was 39 when she killed herself. Had she been rational, she would have never left her 2 year old, 10 year old and 12 year old to grow up without a mom.
Depression isn't selfish. It's a disease of the mind.
Selfish isn't a part of it because the person has to be in a frame of mind to distinguish selfish from unselfish. When that person is in a deep dark place, the only thing they can think about is not feeling the pain and they're not thinking rationally about anything.
My cousin was 39 when she killed herself. Had she been rational, she would have never left her 2 year old, 10 year old and 12 year old to grow up without a mom.
Depression isn't selfish. It's a disease of the mind.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:42 pm to Red Stick Tigress
I won't argue the "selfish" point. In the bad times I just wanted out. I wasn't thinking of repercussions. I just wanted out. It took weeks to get my initial situation under control. I could only think about me. I don't think anyone should get all uptight about someone else calling it "selfish". Neither of them knows ... not even me.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:45 pm to nolanola
So sad man. He was one of my all time favorites. "Oh Captain, my Captain." 
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:51 pm to Redbone
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Consider this, aren't the people close to me being selfish by wanting me to stay alive and miserable just to be around them??
No. And listen, I can understand people wanting to leave this world but your statement is selfish and ignorant. If you commit suicide I see no reason to think that people are being selfish for wanting you still in their lives.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:52 pm to Sampson
During the filming of Good Morning Vietnam there was the scene where he was in a Jeep entertaining some guys in a convoy. Rumor has it (and I can believe it) that he didn't follow script. He just started adlibing. It was classic either way.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:57 pm to Redbone
He was such a talented person. It blows my mind at the amount of people that don't care/dislike him.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:58 pm to Al Dante
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No. And listen, I can understand people wanting to leave this world but your statement is selfish and ignorant. If you commit suicide I see no reason to think that people are being selfish for wanting you still in their lives.
Of course I'm going to take umbrage. We could argue "selfish" but what do you call it when you want to keep me around when I am in a state of misery you cannot conceive?
I do take extreme umbrage to you calling me ignorant. From what knowledge base do you come to that conclusion?
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:03 pm to Redbone
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I do take extreme umbrage to you calling me ignorant. From what knowledge base do you come to that conclusion?
Maybe I shouldn't have used the word " ignorant". But to think that your family and friends are selfish for wishing you were still alive is beyond the pale.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:03 pm to Redbone
You can hear it screaming for yu, driving you insane. And it hurts. and it pains and it drives a man insane. sometimes it's just easier to sleep.
It's not an enviable position.
I feel for him. And all who are plagued by those inner demons.
It's not an enviable position.
I feel for him. And all who are plagued by those inner demons.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:09 pm to Redbone
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Of course I'm going to take umbrage. We could argue "selfish" but what do you call it when you want to keep me around when I am in a state of misery you cannot conceive?
Since 8 months ago I've suffered severe nerve damage from a fall that has turned my world upside down. I never once thought my kids were selfish for wanting me in their lives.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:12 pm to Sampson
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He was such a talented person. It blows my mind at the amount of people that don't care/dislike him.
Not a HUGE fan nor did I find him very funny ,but he only 'amused me'.
People seem to have been more kind to him, however.
I haven't heard all of the disrespectful 'junky' talk that surrounded other celebrities
I wonder why since he was an addict?
I don't think people really understand 'clinical depression' & mistake it for the minor melancholy we all encounter from time to time.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:14 pm to Al Dante
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Since 8 months ago I've suffered severe nerve damage from a fall that has turned my world upside down. I never once thought my kids were selfish for wanting me in their lives.
Severe nerve damage in Sept. of 2011 here. You have a start in understanding but it is definitely different. But addressing the nerve pain, it could be argued that my family is being selfish to want me to continue to make me suffer.
My family collected all my guns at one point. I was sitting in my chair watching with interest. I was holding a bottle of aspirins in my hand. Also, they forgot the .45 in my truck. Obviously I didn't use any of it.
Selfish of your family?? I dunno. We will see in a few months, years, whatever when the pain drives you to drink too much ... or maybe drugs ... and/or depression. I certainly hope you get relief before any of that. They are about to try steroid shots on me. Lyrica and Cymbalta isn't enough.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:17 pm to Redbone
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Severe nerve damage in Sept. of 2011 here. You have a start in understanding but it is definitely different. But addressing the nerve pain, it could be argued that my family is being selfish to want me to continue to make me suffer.
Sounds like your are more depressed about life than me. You've proved it. Congratulations. If you think your kids are selfish for continuing to want you in their lives, you've reached the end.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:06 pm to Al Dante
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Sounds like your are more depressed about life than me. You've proved it. Congratulations. If you think your kids are selfish for continuing to want you in their lives, you've reached the end.
I am not depressed. My clinical depression is controlled by meds. The accident came later and I have partial paralysis to go along with the pain ... however the depression from that didn't last too long. I suffer but I get by o.k. HOWEVER based on experience I know family will do what they can to keep a person around when that person wants to go away. Call it selfish, call it love, call it whatever you want. Arguing over what label to put on it doesn't change the situation one bit.
I haven't reached the end yet. When I do I won't be able to debate the feelings of people or the word we choose to describe it.
You, on the other hand, seem a bit edgy, even mad. You may need to see a counselor to help you through this rough patch you are going through.
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