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RMS Lusitania Sunk 100 Years Ago Today
Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:24 am
Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:24 am
It was hit with two torpedoes at 2:15 pm (local time) and sunk completely 36 minutes later.
The Captain had just testified (on 30 April) in New York City at the RMS Titanic investigation that another event like the Titanic could happen again. He was right.
Memorial Service Link
PS: In before "Germans" reference, I'm smiling thinking about it.
The Captain had just testified (on 30 April) in New York City at the RMS Titanic investigation that another event like the Titanic could happen again. He was right.
Memorial Service Link
PS: In before "Germans" reference, I'm smiling thinking about it.
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:25 am to soccerfüt
Wild that we were so isolationist back then that it still took another 2 years for us to enter the war. Today it would take hours.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:30 am to soccerfüt
The Germans were aliment that she was carrying munitions for the Western Front, which if it were true would have made her a legitimate target. The Allies of course denied the accusation and made the Germans out to be murders of innocent women and children. It was a propaganda windfall for the Allies....
Seems like I remember hearing a few years ago that it was verified she was indeed carry munitions.
Seems like I remember hearing a few years ago that it was verified she was indeed carry munitions.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 10:31 am
Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:38 am to Darth_Vader
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Seems like I remember hearing a few years ago that it was verified she was indeed carry munitions.
The wikipedia page says no proof has yet been uncovered.
ETA: if this was about WWII it would be 3 pages already. No one today gives a shite about WWI.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 10:43 am
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:13 am to colorchangintiger
quote:
The wikipedia page says no proof has yet been uncovered.
10-4. I was thinking there was some sort of documentary about a diving expedition that explored the wreck.
quote:
ETA: if this was about WWII it would be 3 pages already. No one today gives a shite about WWI.
Sad but true. I personally find WWI to be a much more pivotal event on the world stage. Hell, WWII itself is only an aftershock of WWI.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:17 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:20 am to colorchangintiger
quote:
if this was about a race riot it would be 30 pages already. No one today gives a shite about WWI
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:25 am to colorchangintiger
the OT hates WWI
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:27 am to 777Tiger
Les Miles has lost control of the Great War
Doughboys have been permabanned
Liberty Cabbage is racist
Doughboys have been permabanned
Liberty Cabbage is racist
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:31 am to 777Tiger
quote:
the OT hates WWI
Which is a shame. It is fascinating. This is a war that began with soldiers charging on horseback and ended with soldiers fighting in trenches.
There isn't even a national memorial for WWI, just the DC memorial that is off the beaten path of the national mall.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 11:32 am
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:31 am to colorchangintiger
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The wikipedia page says no proof has yet been uncovered.
It's got a lot more on it though, some pretty damning accusations on what the Brits have been up to with that wreck.
LINK
The documentary I watched on it must be the same one mentioned in the article because I remember the part about them finding the depth charge near the wreck.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 11:35 am
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:39 am to Dam Guide
Wasn't there some evidence of hull plates blown outward, possibly indicating a larger secondary explosion after the torpedo hit?
I might have this mixed up with the Maine. I know there was evidence that the Maine sunk from a coal bunker fire and explosion, not a mine. Maybe I'm confused about the Lusitania, but I think I may have read or seen the same story as Darth.
I might have this mixed up with the Maine. I know there was evidence that the Maine sunk from a coal bunker fire and explosion, not a mine. Maybe I'm confused about the Lusitania, but I think I may have read or seen the same story as Darth.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:44 am to White Roach
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Wasn't there some evidence of hull plates blown outward, possibly indicating a larger secondary explosion after the torpedo hit?
I might have this mixed up with the Maine. I know there was evidence that the Maine sunk from a coal bunker fire and explosion, not a mine. Maybe I'm confused about the Lusitania, but I think I may have read or seen the same story as Darth.
That might we what I was trying to remember. I'll have to look it up later and see if I can find it. But it seems there was something that came out pointing to there being munitions on board. Which if that's true, one of the big things that pushed the US towards the Allies in WWI was based on a lie. Imagine had it been revealed back in 1915 that the British were basically using innocent women and children as human shields to get munitions across the Atlantic. I wonder haw that would have effected what was to come?
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:45 am to Darth_Vader
My fave of the WWI posters:
Still seems applicable today. And the chick is hot.
Well here's some interesting phallic symbolism:
Still seems applicable today. And the chick is hot.
Well here's some interesting phallic symbolism:
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:51 am to soccerfüt
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Hampton Sides, a writer with Men's Vogue in the U.S., witnessed the divers' discovery. He said: 'They are bullets that were expressly manufactured to kill Germans in World War I - bullets that British officials in Whitehall, and American officials in Washington, have long denied were aboard the Lusitania.'
The discovery may help explain why the 787ft Lusitania sank within 18 minutes of a single German torpedo slamming into its hull. Some of the 764 survivors reported a second explosion which might have been munitions going off.
Gregg Bemis, an American businessman who owns the rights to the wreck and is funding its exploration, said: 'Those four million rounds of .303s were not just some private hunter's stash. 'Now that we've found it, the British can't deny any more that there was ammunition on board. That raises the question of what else was on board.
LINK
Interesting read.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:57 am to Darth_Vader
quote:Darth some British propagandist just downvoted you
one of the big things that pushed the US towards the Allies in WWI was based on a lie. Imagine had it been revealed back in 1915 that the British were basically using innocent women and children as human shields to get munitions across the Atlantic.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:00 pm to tigerpimpbot
Seems pretty clear that the ship was carrying war munitions along with the boat load of civilian passengers.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:05 pm to Kafka
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Darth some British propagandist just downvoted you
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:06 pm to Champagne
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Seems pretty clear that the ship was carrying war munitions along with the boat load of civilian passengers.
Well yeah. It is kind of like the USS Maine. The Maine probably wasn't destroyed by a mine, but that will never be officially acknowledged.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 2:53 pm to GetCocky11
The USS Maine blew up and it was blamed on a mine at the time.
The most likely cause of the explosion that sunk the USS Maine was spontaneous detonation of gunpowder charges in the ship's magazine. The USS Maine's location was in a climate that would promote deterioration of the chemical compounds in the gunpowder, making that powder subject to spontaneous detonation.
This was an unusual but known cause of ship loss during that period of gunpowder technology.
The most likely cause of the explosion that sunk the USS Maine was spontaneous detonation of gunpowder charges in the ship's magazine. The USS Maine's location was in a climate that would promote deterioration of the chemical compounds in the gunpowder, making that powder subject to spontaneous detonation.
This was an unusual but known cause of ship loss during that period of gunpowder technology.
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