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Removing cell doors in Maximum Security Federal Pens.......Inhumane??

Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Ignignot
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:57 pm
In an effort to make jail actually fearsome in the minds of potential criminals, possibly scaring them into not committing severe crimes (murder, rape, etc), why not just make all big bad prions/institutions into places that only "keep em in" the walls and provide food/bed, but offer no security and no punishment for those who kill in jail. Once youre in....every man for himself.


Posted by Eric Stratton
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:58 pm to
Anal Games.... may the odds be ever in your favor.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:58 pm to
Prison colonies. Let them fend for themselves and tax payers just pay for the fence.
Posted by HoustonChick86
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:59 pm to
That sounds like things could get out of control quickly and would be extremely unsafe for the guards.
Posted by JohnZeroQ
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:59 pm to
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tax payers just pay for the fence.
and PPV
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:59 pm to
Basically, but I'd give them food from a secured portal, that's it.
Posted by DrunkenStuporMan
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:00 pm to
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would be extremely unsafe for the guards.
Who said anything about guards?
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:01 pm to
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That sounds like things could get out of control quickly and would be extremely unsafe for the guards.


You haven't seen the "fence" I have in mind, and the weapons the guards have

You don't use prison guards anymore, it'll be soldiers with machine guns
Posted by SSpaniel
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:01 pm to
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guards


Keep them on the outside, just to shoot anyone who might try to escape and make it to the outside.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:01 pm to
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In an effort to make jail actually fearsome in the minds of potential criminals


do you think criminals actually weigh the consequences of their actions??

You can get 10 years in jail for robbing a convenience stores with a gun for a couple hundred bucks in cash.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 3:03 pm
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:02 pm to
Pretty horrible idea. Just breed violent sociopaths you can never release. Bit too extreme when over half the prison population is in for non violent drug convictions. Might as well execute every law breaker with this logic..

Not to hijack.. but since Alcatraz, why haven't they tried the remote island prison idea again?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:03 pm to
These threads remind me that our founders were geniuses in creating our Constitution. It's dysfunctional, but it keeps our baser instincts at least somewhat in check. Our human nature is clearly no better than that of people in the worst third world shithole, and we would quickly devolve into one if left to our own devices.
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:03 pm to
Once they hear that cousin Eddie got disemboweled in prison when he only went in for grand larceny they'll think twice....
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 3:04 pm
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:04 pm to
Louisiana State Pen was like that in the 70s. They could tell what kinda night they had the next morning by how much blood was on the floors.

Posted by HoustonChick86
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:06 pm to
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You haven't seen the "fence" I have in mind, and the weapons the guards have

You don't use prison guards anymore, it'll be soldiers with machine guns

Well you said there would be no punishment for those who kill in jail, and I was just thinking well someone (guards) has to go in there to collect the dead bodies.
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:06 pm to
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Bit too extreme when over half the prison population is in for non violent drug convictions.


Once you commit a felony you forfeit your protection in my mind, not your life, but your protection
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:07 pm to
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Prison colonies. Let them fend for themselves and tax payers just pay for the fence.


i believe Angola used to be somewhat of a "prison colony". grew their own food, cleared land, etc. Then the ACLU got involved and said that it was inhumane to make prisoners do that.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 3:08 pm
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:11 pm to
Snake Plissken is this you?
Posted by kilo1234
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:11 pm to
When you say "criminals", you really mean "black people", don't you?
Posted by mikrit54
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:12 pm to
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