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re: Real estate groups urged the Fed to stop rate hikes.

Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
49092 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:23 pm to
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I like the idea but unfortunately in reality that fricks people way harder without massive spending cuts. Which we know isn’t going to happen with our spend happy politicians.

Very few people would vote for a sales tax increase if they also had to pay it. Property taxes are the worst of the 3 imo, but touted as some sort of benefit by some states.

The government controls half of the equation and your neighbors can also easily vote for you to fund their new dog park or whatever. My income will be way lower in retirement but my home value probably won't be. No thanks.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15601 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:32 pm to
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It’s slowed down probably about 20% here but still humming surprisingly. 2019-2022 was insane.
Down 29% this September vs last in our market.

I’m still doing fine, but I outwork most of the realtors in my market.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10877 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:41 pm to
This purge is harsh, but was absolutely needed.

Also this was coming. They should have been stocking the cupboards over the past few years
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10814 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 12:03 am to
What are black rocks subsidiary companies buying? That’s what I’d be looking at.
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10814 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 12:05 am to
Kinda shitty. Really. They have us by the balls, and there’s no way to stop them from squeezing.
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10814 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 12:13 am to
House prices aren’t going down, inventory is short by a lot, interest rates aren’t going down anytime soon, they are only going up. If you HAVE to buy, then do it before interest rates go up, so you can lock in, then if interest rates go down later, you can refinance. If you don’t Have to buy and are happy where you are at, like I am, then sit back and watch. I’ve just remodeled the interior. Good luck if you are looking, sincerely.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22373 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 1:01 am to
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I'm still on the sideline waiting,


Good luck brother… all those people with sub 3 mortgages will be listing in no time, just wait!
Posted by Klondikekajun
Member since Jun 2020
1303 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 1:50 am to


How in the world can it be 3000 days to foreclose? 10 years?

Am I reading something wrong?

Are there NO foreclosures in Louisiana?
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10877 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 7:10 am to
My wife and I are so happy we skipped the starter home and stretched a bit to get into a house we could stay in with kids.
Posted by FriscoTiger1973
Frisco, Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1414 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 7:12 am to
Jerome Powell is committed to rate hikes because he has been so successful combatting inflation. He’ll keep raising the rate until it works.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99723 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 7:15 am to
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Good luck brother… all those people with sub 3 mortgages will be listing in no time, just wait!


2.5 years into a refinanced 15 at 2.35%.
Posted by questionable
FL
Member since Apr 2008
1031 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 7:50 am to
Have never heard so many people “on the sidelines”. When rates drop it’s going to be insane. These values now may look like steals. Maybe housing was just undervalued for years?
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
52012 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 8:20 am to
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The amount of closings this week in south Louisiana was by far the lowest in the 20 years I’ve monitored such things. This week is literally a 21st century low. And it’s been bad for a year.


And it's still not yet enough to begin dragging prices down.

It's likely going to take a lot longer to drain the excess liquidity from the market and build up the necessary suprluses of materials to drive prices down than anyone thought.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19562 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 8:31 am to
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Let’s be honest, we’re all fricked anyway. Rates stay outrageous and people won’t be able to afford houses. Rates drop a bit and so many people jump into a low inventory market that the price increases will make your eyes cross. We’re fricked.


Until you pry the "for rent" houses back into the market for people to buy and live in, we will be.

Multiple houses in my established, middle class neighborhood for lease, much fewer for sale right now.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96853 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 8:40 am to
Yep, we are getting the Cali / NYC zone where rent control, property tax increases limits, etc, have made it to where people will tend to hold onto their current property until they absolutely have to sell.


Anyone selling right now may get a premium over what they paid for the current property but the chances of finding something new are low and it will cost you a ton.


Selling my current house for $500K does me no good if the next best house I can find is one that won’t serve my needs while costing $450K with a high interest rate.
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8354 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:21 am to
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Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
52012 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:31 am to
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Until you pry the "for rent" houses back into the market for people to buy and live in, we will be.


That's not likely to happen without a scenario where high unemployment empties rentals. With rates staying so high (and likely to go at least a little higher), demand for rentals will increase as long as people have paychecks coming in. What's likely to drop is the amount of AirBNB/VRBOs in non-touristy areas (places like LA, DC, NYC, coastal areas with nice beaches, etc will likely not see a change unless we hit a bad recession).
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3954 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:34 am to
Realtors are the used car salesmen of the 21st century.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5450 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:52 am to
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The indicator I would follow is if Blackrock is still buying.


NOI on investment properties getting squeezed with increased regulations, taxes and operating costs. When travel slows down because the consumer is getting tapped out by inflation, watch out. Institutional owners will dump inventory for better yields.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99878 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:54 am to
You mean those agents that have been absolutely stacking cash for the past couple of years with insane housing prices?

Nah, they can adjust like the rest of us.
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