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Questions about Layoffs
Posted on 4/21/16 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 4/21/16 at 7:28 pm
I work for a medium sized company in the oil field. They just started another round of layoffs. I haven't been around long enough to know how this particular company handles doing this, although today I saw someone in their mid 50s with 9 years of experience get the ax with no warning whatsoever. Questions:
1. Who is usually the first to go? Upper management/senior staff who eat up too much of the budget? Do some companies first target recent, entry level hires who aren't as valuable?
2. Do most companies not give you any warning like that? Sheesh.
Note. I do realize that no two companies are the same. Because of that, there might not be a "usual" circumstance, but what are your experiences?
1. Who is usually the first to go? Upper management/senior staff who eat up too much of the budget? Do some companies first target recent, entry level hires who aren't as valuable?
2. Do most companies not give you any warning like that? Sheesh.
Note. I do realize that no two companies are the same. Because of that, there might not be a "usual" circumstance, but what are your experiences?
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 7:29 pm to Mufassa
Middle Management imo
Posted on 4/21/16 at 7:29 pm to Mufassa
The assholes on this board are happy you're having to worry.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 7:30 pm to Mufassa
I work for a fringe industry (environmental). We had a round of layoffs recently and they picked everyone from senior management to admins.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 7:32 pm to upgrayedd
And people bitch about unions.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 7:35 pm to Mufassa
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Who is usually the first to go? Upper management/senior staff who eat up too much of the budget?
Posted on 4/21/16 at 7:49 pm to Mufassa
People who don't kiss arse are usually the first ones to go
Posted on 4/21/16 at 7:56 pm to Mufassa
I work for a major and we just went through a massive layoff. The company tried to make it as merit-based as possible. In general lower (but not necessarily poor) performers were let go in all age/experience ranges. There were also a few guys I know near retirement that didn't make it but in general those guys are not upset (they get severance and retirement).
People who have been consistent performers and who have a wide range of skill sets (flexibility) typically have made out OK during layoffs.
A little bit of arse kissing never hurt either....
People who have been consistent performers and who have a wide range of skill sets (flexibility) typically have made out OK during layoffs.
A little bit of arse kissing never hurt either....
Posted on 4/21/16 at 8:04 pm to lsugradman
Yeah I can second this. It's generally been ubderperomers and people not wanting to advance themselves. Your bosses are keeping an eye on you and seeing if you just collect a check or actually work hard and care about what you do. I hope you make it through okay...it's definitely some trying times. Good luck.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 8:07 pm to Mufassa
Let me know how much you're selling your truck nuts and yeti cooler for.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 8:14 pm to gmoney504
It's software, baw
Posted on 4/21/16 at 8:29 pm to Mufassa
quote:
1. Who is usually the first to go? Upper management/senior staff who eat up too much of the budget? Do some companies first target recent, entry level hires who aren't as valuable? 2. Do most companies not give you any warning like that? Sheesh.
I'll address 2 first.
No, generally they don't. Productivity suffers and the business usually has contracts it still has obligations for. The people who need to know do. As someone who has been quite aware when a big layoff was coming before almost anyone else did, and had to keep that information quiet I know how it works from that end.
Now to 1. The answer is, it depends. If it's a long drawdown, the worst performers will tend to get the axe first. Reason being things can change, and you want to put the best face forward you can as a company in case they do.
Senior management are generally aware of what's coming, so it's usually not necessary to cut them, as they're looking for something else well before anyone else knows. When you see large numbers of them missing time ahead of a layoff, you know it's not going to stop with the first round. They're job hunting.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 8:34 pm to Mufassa
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 8:47 pm to Mufassa
quote:
1. Who is usually the first to go? Upper management/senior staff who eat up too much of the budget?
That's what smart companies do. In reality it's usually the fricktards at the top who's leadership failures caused the need for layoffs are safe
Posted on 4/21/16 at 8:50 pm to Mufassa
Whole different animal but I saw this happen. The newspaper I sold advertising for shut down the whole classified department in our Dallas office like that one day. After letting them all go, they forwarded those calls to the Houston classified department. The manager came back over into sales.
In the retail sales department they normally didn't have to let people go because they had to produce to keep their jobs anyway. We had a fairly low base and had to make our money through commissions. In that position, if you were producing, they wanted to keep you. They always lost business when people left.
Managers came and went, but our top producers stayed. I worked there for 28 years and would still be there if I didn't have some health problems.
If those companies are anything like the one I worked for, unproductive people and managers went first. That's always the way sales is. I think most companies start looking at all employees like they would sales people when money is tight.
In the retail sales department they normally didn't have to let people go because they had to produce to keep their jobs anyway. We had a fairly low base and had to make our money through commissions. In that position, if you were producing, they wanted to keep you. They always lost business when people left.
Managers came and went, but our top producers stayed. I worked there for 28 years and would still be there if I didn't have some health problems.
If those companies are anything like the one I worked for, unproductive people and managers went first. That's always the way sales is. I think most companies start looking at all employees like they would sales people when money is tight.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 1:12 pm to Mufassa
They finally sent out a company wide email announcing layoffs till the end of the month
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