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Question for those who have lost a close relative

Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:14 pm
Posted by PenguinNinja
Antarctica (and Japan)
Member since Sep 2011
2082 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:14 pm
In the sake of full disclosure, I've thankfully never lost a really close relative, but I'm watching this coverage of people wanting other people (e.g. Indonesian Coast Guard) to hang our of helicopters in what can only be described as "dicey" weather to recover the bodies of their dead relatives who sadly perished in the AirAsia jet crash in Indonesia.

Now, I understand they're immeasurably upset, but what is the purpose of recovering the bodies? I have to assume they're only doing it for the sake of the families. When you lost your close family member, did you feel an overwhelming need to see (or be able to confirm the whereabouts of) the body of that relative?

Serious question.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35391 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:16 pm to
Chance there were survivors?


Everyone would like to bury their dead, but I wouldn't want anyone to risk their lives for it
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 7:18 pm
Posted by PenguinNinja
Antarctica (and Japan)
Member since Sep 2011
2082 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:17 pm to
You shitting me? The plane crashed 3 days ago...
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35391 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:18 pm to
Um, it's happened before
Posted by AthensTiger
Athens, GA
Member since Jul 2008
2977 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

When you lost your close family member, did you feel an overwhelming need to see (or be able to confirm the whereabouts of) the body of that relative?
Lost my dad this year. No.
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:25 pm to
I've lost Grandparents,my Dad when he was 56 and I was 28.

I guess people feel a need for closure and maybe they can't get that when they don't know where their loved one is.

I certainly wouldn't want anyone to risk their life to recover a dead relative.

Some cultures may feel the need to have a body to mourn more than ours'.
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 7:32 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141987 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:29 pm to
As we covered in the recent wake thread, some cultures are more visual/tactile/touchy feely than repressed WASP Americans, and would want the body if only for the reassurance that they have it
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:15 pm to
If someone close to me died in a plane crash or accident, I would want to give their body a proper burial. Seems like common sense to me.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

but what is the purpose of recovering the bodies?
Just to know they weren't eaten by sharks and shyt.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34655 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

but what is the purpose of recovering the bodies?


verifying their death for insurance purposes and claims against the airline...
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4244 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:21 pm to
How close is close? Is a second cousin close? Is a first cousin close? How about a brother-in-law?
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19473 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:22 pm to
Closure.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:43 pm to
Wasn't a "must do" thing for me but I can see how I would want this if they'd been lost in an airplane with the "unknown" still hanging out there.
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
2976 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

When you lost your close family member, did you feel an overwhelming need to see (or be able to confirm the whereabouts of) the body of that relative?


No overwhelming need to see the body. Just want to know close relative is actually gone
Posted by Isabelle
Member since Jul 2012
2726 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:07 pm to
The day and a half we had to wait to see our son, after he was killed in an accident, seemed like forever. I had to see his body and I had to see his car in the wrecker yard.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39136 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:10 pm to
As bodies decompose they create gas. This makes them float. Washing up on shore would be pretty bad.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56034 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:20 pm to
yes, there is a strong urge to see the loved one that one last time...as unpleasant as it is, seeing them is helpful from a psychological standpoint...

ETA: I can't imagine how difficult it would be to just get a message that a loved one in the military was missing in action
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 9:21 pm
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35159 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:29 pm to
How many days until you are comfortable rubbing one out without feeling like they are looking down on you with disgust?
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

I've lost Grandparents,my Dad when he was 56 and I was 28.

I guess people feel a need for closure and maybe they can't get that when they don't know where their loved one is.

I certainly wouldn't want anyone to risk their life to recover a dead relative.

Some cultures may feel the need to have a body to mourn more than ours'.


this ...

i don't think i would demand that type of risk, but i'm not asian/etc ... wanting to see a loved one for one last time is not incomprehensible ...

there are no rules for handling death ...

Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56034 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

How many days until you are comfortable rubbing one out without feeling like they are looking down on you with disgust?


that is why it is important to establish that you are a perv with your relatives while they are still alive...
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