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Question for the lawyers of the OT.

Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:03 pm
Posted by NashBamaFan
Nashville
Member since Mar 2011
2947 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:03 pm
Let's just say a company was purchased for 3.5 million. The previous owner would hold on to 10%. The other 90% would be owned as such:
One owner , who already was gifted 10% years ago , now owns 51% without putting up any cash. (I'm not sure how the transaction went down but I do know he now owns 51% of the company)
Owner 2: Owns 40% of said company and put up $300,000.00 to obtain that 40%.
When original owner (owns 10%) dies the 2 other owners or the business get first option on the 10%
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My question is this: How much say/power does the 40% owner have in said company? The 51% owner is running the (once very lucrative business ) into the ground. My fiancé is the 40% owner and she claims she cannot do or say anything to change things because her partner owns a majority of the business. I may be dumb , I'll take that if true , but I think that as an owner , especially at 40% , she should be able to dictate , to an extent , what goes on business wise.
Is it cut and dry that the majority owner gets to make all decisions , good or bad , while the 40% owner just has to sit back and wait to find majority owner fricking up before she can do anything?
I understand that the majority owner has more stake in the company (albeit without putting up any cash) and it would seem , more decision making power. But how does that shake out? Surely , the other big owner (40%) has some kind of say in day to day operations, right?
I can explain more if needed. Much more when it comes to the problems that the company is having and the dumb decisions being made by Mr. 51%. I'm just a wanting to know how much weight she has and , if none , what her right course of action may be without bringing down the company because I believe that if it comes to that , she'd be brought down as well being a stupid (I'll just keep my mouth shut) partner.
I know tl/dr. If anyone does read , it would be appreciated. No need for the dumb fricks and they're dumb responses! Trying to get some real guidance here. Thanks
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 12:11 am
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:07 pm to
So what you have is a relatively complicated corporations problem that you should absolutely take to a real lawyer and not be giving details of to the OT.
Posted by Jwodie
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2009
7205 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:10 pm to
No retainer? TLDR.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:10 pm to
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No need for the dumb fricks and they're dumb responses


This is rich
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30578 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:11 pm to
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f anyone does read , it would be appreciated. No need for the dumb fricks and they're dumb responses!

Guys, he says we're not needed. But clearly he doesn't understand how free legal advice on the Internet works
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98188 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:11 pm to
Minority shareholders can raise all kinds of hell. Blee dat.
Posted by Bruneaux
Thibodaux, La
Member since Aug 2015
618 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:13 pm to
lawyer up, cheapskate



but majority ownership rules all day, fwiw
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80257 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:14 pm to
I feel so bad that you typed all of that and it's all useless without seeing the actual sale and incorporation documents themselves

ETA: there's your free legal advice
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 11:22 pm
Posted by Real Pirate
NE LA
Member since Apr 2013
1879 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

No need for the dumb fricks and they're dumb responses


Your best bet would be to go choke on a fat black cock.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67096 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:14 pm to
51% is controlling ownership. He stacked, she f&%ked.

However, I don't have to be a math major to see that 10% (original owner) + 51% (controlling owner) + 40% (fiance) = 101. 101>100. Someone has 1% less stake than you say they do, and if that person is anyone but the one claiming to have 50%, then any and all decisions would require at least 2 of the owners to agree.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30578 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:17 pm to
So your wife paid $300k for 40% of a company that sold for 3.5 million? Your wife paid less than 10% of the value for 40% of a company? Either you have some numbers wrong or your wife is taking it from someone on the other end of that deal

And the whole point of the majority 51% ownership is to have complete control over decisions. Minority owners don't get to decide who's running the ship unless they can buy out the majority owner. Seeing as your wife is already doing the majority owner, it shouldn't be too difficult for her to secure a majority share though
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25317 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:17 pm to
If one person owns 51% and another person owns 40%......who owns the remaining 9%?
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:19 pm to
for that kind of money would it really kill her to talk to an actual attorney?
Posted by NashBamaFan
Nashville
Member since Mar 2011
2947 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:21 pm to
Right! This is what I'm trying to explain to her but I'm failing in doing so. I need the right words to get her to believe that just because one owns 51% doesn't mean she can't get some things changed!
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80257 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:23 pm to
I'd pay to be a fly on the wall during that conversation
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30578 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:23 pm to
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Thanks A picture of her and I for your troubles.


Nobody wants to see you, but at least now I can confirm my previous suspicions about your wife
Posted by NashBamaFan
Nashville
Member since Mar 2011
2947 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:24 pm to
I would email then to someone. That's how desperate I am in helping her. She is the he kind of person that values peace at work over protecting her investment. I hope that makes sense. She'd rather keep everyone friendly than raise hell and piss a few people off.
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

$3.5 million


Sounds like fianc can afford to,hire 2 lawyer, corporate guy and litigator. Maybe Geln Morris then some BA there in TN.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80257 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:25 pm to
I'd like to meet the lawyer that would actually take you up on your offer.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124429 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:25 pm to
Was it hot wearing an undershirt?
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