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Question for the lawyers of the OT.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:03 pm
Let's just say a company was purchased for 3.5 million. The previous owner would hold on to 10%. The other 90% would be owned as such:
One owner , who already was gifted 10% years ago , now owns 51% without putting up any cash. (I'm not sure how the transaction went down but I do know he now owns 51% of the company)
Owner 2: Owns 40% of said company and put up $300,000.00 to obtain that 40%.
When original owner (owns 10%) dies the 2 other owners or the business get first option on the 10%
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My question is this: How much say/power does the 40% owner have in said company? The 51% owner is running the (once very lucrative business ) into the ground. My fiancé is the 40% owner and she claims she cannot do or say anything to change things because her partner owns a majority of the business. I may be dumb , I'll take that if true , but I think that as an owner , especially at 40% , she should be able to dictate , to an extent , what goes on business wise.
Is it cut and dry that the majority owner gets to make all decisions , good or bad , while the 40% owner just has to sit back and wait to find majority owner fricking up before she can do anything?
I understand that the majority owner has more stake in the company (albeit without putting up any cash) and it would seem , more decision making power. But how does that shake out? Surely , the other big owner (40%) has some kind of say in day to day operations, right?
I can explain more if needed. Much more when it comes to the problems that the company is having and the dumb decisions being made by Mr. 51%. I'm just a wanting to know how much weight she has and , if none , what her right course of action may be without bringing down the company because I believe that if it comes to that , she'd be brought down as well being a stupid (I'll just keep my mouth shut) partner.
I know tl/dr. If anyone does read , it would be appreciated. No need for the dumb fricks and they're dumb responses! Trying to get some real guidance here. Thanks
One owner , who already was gifted 10% years ago , now owns 51% without putting up any cash. (I'm not sure how the transaction went down but I do know he now owns 51% of the company)
Owner 2: Owns 40% of said company and put up $300,000.00 to obtain that 40%.
When original owner (owns 10%) dies the 2 other owners or the business get first option on the 10%
.
.
My question is this: How much say/power does the 40% owner have in said company? The 51% owner is running the (once very lucrative business ) into the ground. My fiancé is the 40% owner and she claims she cannot do or say anything to change things because her partner owns a majority of the business. I may be dumb , I'll take that if true , but I think that as an owner , especially at 40% , she should be able to dictate , to an extent , what goes on business wise.
Is it cut and dry that the majority owner gets to make all decisions , good or bad , while the 40% owner just has to sit back and wait to find majority owner fricking up before she can do anything?
I understand that the majority owner has more stake in the company (albeit without putting up any cash) and it would seem , more decision making power. But how does that shake out? Surely , the other big owner (40%) has some kind of say in day to day operations, right?
I can explain more if needed. Much more when it comes to the problems that the company is having and the dumb decisions being made by Mr. 51%. I'm just a wanting to know how much weight she has and , if none , what her right course of action may be without bringing down the company because I believe that if it comes to that , she'd be brought down as well being a stupid (I'll just keep my mouth shut) partner.
I know tl/dr. If anyone does read , it would be appreciated. No need for the dumb fricks and they're dumb responses! Trying to get some real guidance here. Thanks
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 12:11 am
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:07 pm to NashBamaFan
So what you have is a relatively complicated corporations problem that you should absolutely take to a real lawyer and not be giving details of to the OT.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:10 pm to NashBamaFan
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No need for the dumb fricks and they're dumb responses
This is rich
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:11 pm to NashBamaFan
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f anyone does read , it would be appreciated. No need for the dumb fricks and they're dumb responses!
Guys, he says we're not needed. But clearly he doesn't understand how free legal advice on the Internet works
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:11 pm to NashBamaFan
Minority shareholders can raise all kinds of hell. Blee dat.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:13 pm to NashBamaFan
lawyer up, cheapskate
but majority ownership rules all day, fwiw
but majority ownership rules all day, fwiw
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:14 pm to NashBamaFan
I feel so bad that you typed all of that and it's all useless without seeing the actual sale and incorporation documents themselves
ETA: there's your free legal advice
ETA: there's your free legal advice
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:14 pm to NashBamaFan
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No need for the dumb fricks and they're dumb responses
Your best bet would be to go choke on a fat black cock.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:14 pm to NashBamaFan
51% is controlling ownership. He stacked, she f&%ked.
However, I don't have to be a math major to see that 10% (original owner) + 51% (controlling owner) + 40% (fiance) = 101. 101>100. Someone has 1% less stake than you say they do, and if that person is anyone but the one claiming to have 50%, then any and all decisions would require at least 2 of the owners to agree.
However, I don't have to be a math major to see that 10% (original owner) + 51% (controlling owner) + 40% (fiance) = 101. 101>100. Someone has 1% less stake than you say they do, and if that person is anyone but the one claiming to have 50%, then any and all decisions would require at least 2 of the owners to agree.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:17 pm to NashBamaFan
So your wife paid $300k for 40% of a company that sold for 3.5 million? Your wife paid less than 10% of the value for 40% of a company? Either you have some numbers wrong or your wife is taking it from someone on the other end of that deal
And the whole point of the majority 51% ownership is to have complete control over decisions. Minority owners don't get to decide who's running the ship unless they can buy out the majority owner. Seeing as your wife is already doing the majority owner, it shouldn't be too difficult for her to secure a majority share though
And the whole point of the majority 51% ownership is to have complete control over decisions. Minority owners don't get to decide who's running the ship unless they can buy out the majority owner. Seeing as your wife is already doing the majority owner, it shouldn't be too difficult for her to secure a majority share though
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:17 pm to NashBamaFan
If one person owns 51% and another person owns 40%......who owns the remaining 9%?
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:19 pm to NashBamaFan
for that kind of money would it really kill her to talk to an actual attorney?
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:21 pm to Jim Rockford
Right! This is what I'm trying to explain to her but I'm failing in doing so. I need the right words to get her to believe that just because one owns 51% doesn't mean she can't get some things changed!
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:23 pm to NashBamaFan
I'd pay to be a fly on the wall during that conversation
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:23 pm to NashBamaFan
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Thanks A picture of her and I for your troubles.
Nobody wants to see you, but at least now I can confirm my previous suspicions about your wife
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:24 pm to boosiebadazz
I would email then to someone. That's how desperate I am in helping her. She is the he kind of person that values peace at work over protecting her investment. I hope that makes sense. She'd rather keep everyone friendly than raise hell and piss a few people off.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:24 pm to NashBamaFan
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$3.5 million
Sounds like fianc can afford to,hire 2 lawyer, corporate guy and litigator. Maybe Geln Morris then some BA there in TN.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:25 pm to NashBamaFan
I'd like to meet the lawyer that would actually take you up on your offer.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:25 pm to NashBamaFan
Was it hot wearing an undershirt?
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