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Question for OT Ornithologist. Black birds and White birds on the LSU lakes.

Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:48 am
Posted by LakeViewLSU
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:48 am
While jogging around the smaller of the two lakes, I often notice hundreds of birds perched on certain trees in the lakes. Some of them are black, some of them are white

The weird thing, is that they segregate themselves on the trees with the top half of the tree filled with black birds and the bottom half of the tree filled with white birds.

Anybody know why they do this? And which part of the tree is the most desireble for birds?
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 8:56 am
Posted by AbitaFan08
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:50 am to
Racist.
Posted by Ingeniero
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1 ban
Posted by Tiger Prawn
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How many birds were kneeling for that inequality?
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Posted by sweetwaterbilly
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:51 am to
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black birds and white birds


quote:

segregate


*exits thread*
Posted by LakeViewLSU
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:52 am to
Its not bait. This is something i see every morning and always wondered why. Was hoping there are some on here that might be able to give some insight.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 8:58 am
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:54 am to
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Its not bait. This is something i see every morning and always wondered why. Was hoping to get some input.


Maybe they are different kinds of birds. Birds of a feather flock together.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Some of them are black, some of them are white

The weird thing, is that they segregate themselves


This aggression will not stand, man.
Posted by nes2010
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:55 am to
Maybe a little more descriptive than black and white might help. Birds can utilize different niches within a canopy.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:55 am to
The black birds are on top?

Looks like whitey is in its proper place
Posted by LakeViewLSU
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:56 am to
Its hard to tell, they look similiar in size. I am usually out there at dawn or before.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:57 am to
White birds be racist..
Posted by atxfan
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:57 am to
The white birds are water birds so they stay closer to the water?
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:02 am to
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Its hard to tell, they look similiar in size. I am usually out there at dawn or before.


I'd imagine the black birds are cormorants and the white birds are various egrets.

Roosting with like birds more than likely. If you were a black bird sleeping in a group for "protection" from predators, would you want to sleep next to the bright white bird?


Edit to add:

Now, as to why the cormorants (assuming that's what they are and we aren't talking about darker egrets (herons) here) have the top while the egrets are below them, or which stratus is better, I'm unsure. Sleeping in trees over water is usually predator avoidance of mammalian predators.

Perhaps one group gets the prime spot because they are more aggressive than the other. Maybe the top of the tree is more exposed to nocturnal avian predators (Great-horned Owl, maybe?) and the lower/interior branches are the prime spots. You also have to take into account that cormorants are clumsy birds when on their feet. It could be that they're best bet of roosting is just landing at the top, whereas an egret can move around more in the interior.

Also, cormorants have to stretch out their wings in order to dry them because they lack the oil gland that protects feathers (preening feathers as ducks do), which is why you see them sunning themselves. So, in this scenario, I have a feeling that the cormorants are to the trees first in the afternoon, at the top, catching the last bit of sun to dry their feathers before nightfall.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 9:40 am
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Posted by upgrayedd
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We've got so much work left to do, y'all
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:06 am to
quote:

The white birds are water birds so they stay closer to the water?


black bird cant swim so they stay further away from water?
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:08 am to
The bottom part of the tree is the regular wood and the top part is what arborists refer to as "goodwood"

In regards to the birds, it's pretty much all black once you cross goodwood
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 9:09 am
Posted by BlackAdam
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:12 am to
Predator looking up into the light will see the white and it will blend in to the light providing camouflage. A predator looking down from above will see the black which will blend in with the ground or water below providing camouflage. This is similar to how fish have white bellies and dark backs.

Seems to be a mutually beneficial roosting arrangement.
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