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Question For Oklahoma Legal Experts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:19 pm
Someone I know wants a divorce from his undiagnosed bi-polar, verbally abusive, unemployed, suicidal wife. Yes, She legitemetly is all of that, no exaggeration. But he travels a lot for work and has a good job, but he is terrified if he files, she will get custody their young kid because of court bias for the mother and his crazy work schedule.
What are his options for a slam dunk win in the divorce and get full custody of the kid?
What are his options for a slam dunk win in the divorce and get full custody of the kid?
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:20 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:pics?
undiagnosed bi-polar, verbally abusive, unemployed, suicidal wife.
She sounds good in the sack
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:21 pm to Jack Ruby
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verbally abusive
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suicidal
Get that recorded on tape
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:24 pm to Ostrich
What kind of recordings are admissible In Oklahoma court? Can third party or someone outside the home record their fights and it be legal?
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:24 pm to Jack Ruby
the truth here is he doesn't want to write checks to the crazy bitch for child support.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:26 pm to Dont_Call_Me_RAY
No she's legitemetely insane, like should be institutionalize, but her family won't do it and he wont do it. He doesn't care about money, he just needs custody for the child's safety and sanity.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:26 pm to Jack Ruby
Please let your friend know that he is about to go to war. In war, you want to make sure you fire first and often and have the best weapons.
1) get a good family attorney, and by good I don't mean knows the law, I mean knows the judge . In family court there is no jury, therefore Judge = God.
2) file for divorce and immediately file a restraining order . Get the ex-wife kicked out the house . Remember, playing nice means get ready to lose. His goal needs to be to get her living under a bridge. I know this sounds harsh , but again this is war not lovey dovey time.
3) file for full custody . If the wife is homeless , this should be easy.
Watch Netflicks documentary Divorce Corp. Tell your buddy to "get ready" .
1) get a good family attorney, and by good I don't mean knows the law, I mean knows the judge . In family court there is no jury, therefore Judge = God.
2) file for divorce and immediately file a restraining order . Get the ex-wife kicked out the house . Remember, playing nice means get ready to lose. His goal needs to be to get her living under a bridge. I know this sounds harsh , but again this is war not lovey dovey time.
3) file for full custody . If the wife is homeless , this should be easy.
Watch Netflicks documentary Divorce Corp. Tell your buddy to "get ready" .
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:31 pm to crazycubes
She's crazy enough to fight him bad, she threatens to take the child all the time. He is a good, decent person who has bent over backwards for years trying to appease her, yet her mental condition gets steadily worse and worse. She is MASSIVELY bi-polar.
I spoke to a lawyer I know recently about it and all he basically said if he has recordings, it's open and shut, he basically can't lose. I don't see it being that easy, but then again he is more of a criminal attorney than divorce, but he's been pactcing at a high level for 30 yrs.
I spoke to a lawyer I know recently about it and all he basically said if he has recordings, it's open and shut, he basically can't lose. I don't see it being that easy, but then again he is more of a criminal attorney than divorce, but he's been pactcing at a high level for 30 yrs.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:34 pm to Jack Ruby
for reason I don't care to discuss I am required to inform you I am no longer allowed to practice law in Oklahoma.
but ol boy needs to get his attorney to petition the court to appoint a guardian ad litem until the mothers mental fitness can be determined if he is sure she is crazy.
but ol boy needs to get his attorney to petition the court to appoint a guardian ad litem until the mothers mental fitness can be determined if he is sure she is crazy.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:35 pm to crazycubes
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crazycubes
Damn, that's good stuff right there, not just another smart-arse comment like mine was.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:53 pm to Jack Ruby
Why are people always trying to make things more difficult than they need to be? If the issue is indeed a mental health issue, then why on Earth would he "refuse" to have her institutionalized? Is she taking medication? (Guess not if undiagnosed) If not, why doesn't he get her the treatment she needs?
One poster suggests getting her to live under a bridge. A woman he loved enough to marry and have a child with and now he wants her to suffer as much as possible?
Are people that afraid of the stigma of mental health treatment? They're ready to totally ruin their lives and the lives of their children over it? These aren't mental institutions where they put people in straitjackets, their goal is to get people back to normal lives.
And the fact that this isn't a blatantly course of action is just downright disturbing.
I was almost suicidal due to an OCD that was overpowering. They got me on a medication and I'm a normal productive member of society now.
One poster suggests getting her to live under a bridge. A woman he loved enough to marry and have a child with and now he wants her to suffer as much as possible?
Are people that afraid of the stigma of mental health treatment? They're ready to totally ruin their lives and the lives of their children over it? These aren't mental institutions where they put people in straitjackets, their goal is to get people back to normal lives.
And the fact that this isn't a blatantly course of action is just downright disturbing.
I was almost suicidal due to an OCD that was overpowering. They got me on a medication and I'm a normal productive member of society now.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:54 pm to Rebel
She has intentionally never seen any kind of therapist or psychologist because she knows it would be bad news for her and be admissible in court that she attended those sessions. She's smart, so smart in fact I think she could fool a psych evaluation. How far would actual, hidden audio recordings go in proving she is crazy.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:57 pm to TheWalrus
This. Get her involuntarily committed. Everyone wins, even her as she gets seen by a real doc.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:57 pm to Jack Ruby
Holy shite. You aren't that dense are you? Seeing a therapist is an admission that someone is incapable of taking care of a child? Never mind that almost every mental illness is somewhat treatable.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:59 pm to TheWalrus
She won't go on medication or accept any kind of help because as I above posted, she knows it will not look good for her in court if divorce proceedings happen. Her family are extremely strange and are literally no help at all. And she has gotten him so terrified that if he does ANYTHING she will take the child and never see him again.
I'm telling you, I have never seen a case like this. I have known crazy bitches, but this one is off the charts and seriously needs help. She will berate him for hours and hours on end because he folded a towel wrong or bought the wrong kind of milk. This will go on until the wee hours of the night most times.
I'm telling you, I have never seen a case like this. I have known crazy bitches, but this one is off the charts and seriously needs help. She will berate him for hours and hours on end because he folded a towel wrong or bought the wrong kind of milk. This will go on until the wee hours of the night most times.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:07 pm to Jack Ruby
Sounds like she would be easy to set off. Set up a cam in the house and trigger the bitch into doing something insane.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:20 pm to Jack Ruby
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Oklahoma Legal Experts
You have come to the right place.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:45 pm to Jack Ruby
State-by-State Recording Laws
If you travel to one of the following states and she is still in Oklahoma, do NOT record the conversation:
Tape-recording laws at a glance
Date: August 1, 2012
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Oklahoma – A person may intercept a wire, oral, or electronic communication when the person is a party to the conversation or when one party to the conversation has given prior consent.
If you travel to one of the following states and she is still in Oklahoma, do NOT record the conversation:
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Twelve states require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation. Those jurisdictions are California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Washington.
Tape-recording laws at a glance
Date: August 1, 2012
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:24 am to Jack Ruby
Crazy attracts crazy. I'm sure your friend is a piece of work. If he gets a good enough lawyer they may be able to pin it on the wife.
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