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re: Property Tax for roads FAILED at the Council.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:09 pm to doubleb
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:09 pm to doubleb
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There was cases where the money wasn't spent on roads and bridges, but instead was spent on the State Police and the Port
Bel Edwards put a stop to the state police shite Jindal started.
And ports are a part of infrastructure. Infrastructure is funded by one thing: gas tax.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong in these threads?
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:13 pm to magildachunks
Not wrong. You must work for the state the way you defend the way they spend our money.
All I said was they spent gas tax dollars on State Police and ports, and people didn't like gas tax money being spent on things other than roads and bridges.
Am I wrong goof ball??? Nope
I never said it was illegal.
All I said was they spent gas tax dollars on State Police and ports, and people didn't like gas tax money being spent on things other than roads and bridges.
Am I wrong goof ball??? Nope
I never said it was illegal.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:16 pm to doubleb
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All I said was they spent gas tax dollars on State Police and ports, and people didn't like gas tax money being spent on things other than roads and bridges
This is the first time you've ever brought up the ports in these debates. Ever.
Even though I've mentioned they get funding numerous times.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:18 pm to magildachunks
So what
You are a goof ball and you have to be a state worker.
And I'm right, people want gas taxes to go to roads and bridges.
You are a goof ball and you have to be a state worker.
And I'm right, people want gas taxes to go to roads and bridges.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:19 pm to doubleb
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And I'm right, people want gas taxes to go to roads and bridges.
Which is why you were so supportive of the new gas tax.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:22 pm to magildachunks
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Which is why you were so supportive of the new gas tax.
And why state workers and people at DOTD loved it.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:25 pm to Martini
Yeah I get all the shite you're saying, I just don't agree on the funding. Why are you so (seemingly) hellbent on funding " roads roads roads" with money from property taxes, gas taxes, etc?
you ask for ideas. But in reality, you're not interested in ideas. You just want roads roads roads any way you can get them. Taxes are the answer to everything in this state. Always have been. Yet the state is a dumpster fire and broke. What makes you think this would be any differenT?
And all the shite you spew about walking to your office and working in other states is irrelevant when you're asking everyone else to shoulder the expense of this plan. I don't care what you do for a living. I do have a vested interest in having more of my money confiscated thru taxes.
And trust me regardless of my address, I'll pay if EBR raises taxes. The shite gets passed on. Tell EBR and every other govt entity to live within its means. I have to every day. Time for them to start doing the same.
you ask for ideas. But in reality, you're not interested in ideas. You just want roads roads roads any way you can get them. Taxes are the answer to everything in this state. Always have been. Yet the state is a dumpster fire and broke. What makes you think this would be any differenT?
And all the shite you spew about walking to your office and working in other states is irrelevant when you're asking everyone else to shoulder the expense of this plan. I don't care what you do for a living. I do have a vested interest in having more of my money confiscated thru taxes.
And trust me regardless of my address, I'll pay if EBR raises taxes. The shite gets passed on. Tell EBR and every other govt entity to live within its means. I have to every day. Time for them to start doing the same.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:41 pm to Martini
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You are the reason you sit in traffic daily. Not me or a politician. You alone are the reason and you fricking deserve it.
I guess the politicians that destroyed the EBR public school system had nothing to do with the current traffic problems in Baton Rouge.
All those people that can't afford to send their children to private schools in EBR and moved to the surrounding parishes that have better schools but still work in BR have nothing to do with this traffic problem.
How, again, is this not the fault of politicians?!
Posted on 9/14/17 at 6:35 am to ruzil
And remember when some people tried to form an ISD which might have helped stop the flight of young families leaving the parish, politics stopped that cold.
The school situation has done a lot to push people out of the parish and farther away from their jobs.
The school situation has done a lot to push people out of the parish and farther away from their jobs.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 7:13 am to tigerinthebueche
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Yeah I get all the shite you're saying, I just don't agree on the funding. Why are you so (seemingly) hellbent on funding " roads roads roads" with money from property taxes, gas taxes, etc?
From my perspective, the biggest project listed that wasn't on the Green Light plan was the Pecue Lane interchange and widening and the Lee Drive enhancements. Nicholson is on the list already and will eventually happen as would Hooper Rd.
I think those are all important, but they could have both been handled with a simple extension of the sales tax instead of revamping the whole setup to include a property tax. There are federal grants that they can apply for to extend bike trails incrementally or replace problem intersections with roundabouts when needed - but this administration is actually turning down federal grants for some things because they aren't focused in north Baton Rouge.
After Green Light, the biggest kinks in the regional road network are either major state/federal highways or that damn antiquated section of I-10 that hasn't been touched since it was built.
If I were mayor, I would have never ever asked for a property tax. I think sales and consumption taxes are local cherries to pick if they need them badly enough. I don't think the state should try to go after that.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 7:15 am to doubleb
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And remember when some people tried to form an ISD which might have helped stop the flight of young families leaving the parish, politics stopped that cold.
For a decade, they wanted Baton Rouge to be more like Austin and more like Texas. Texas and Austin have ISDs.
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 7:16 am
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:16 am to Supermoto Tiger
Sales tax is the only fair tax. Glad Broome's sweeping plan failed. Unfortunately this will slow the inevitable rise of St.George
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:18 am to Upperdecker
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Sales tax is the only fair tax.
Are we going to be okay paying 11% sales tax in EBR?
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 8:19 am
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:27 am to lnomm34
This really says a lot on how bad her administration is going. I have never seen a time when politicians aren't jumping at a chance to get more money. Shows how much when 5 vote for and 5 against. She is dead weight sitting in office. We have used all taxing leverage in regards to sales tax. You can't have it much higher than it is now. So the next best thing is property tax. This is why it won't pass too.
I told a supporter of Broome that her start as Mayor will hinder the rest of her time as Mayor. Things won't get done and this is proof.
I told a supporter of Broome that her start as Mayor will hinder the rest of her time as Mayor. Things won't get done and this is proof.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:35 am to LSUDAN1
It feels like this was just as much a vote against Broome as it was a vote against the specific tax.
Under Kip's reign they would have probably let it go to the public vote.
I think one thing that needs to happen is a hard look at the homestead exemption. Make it a certain % up to a certain amount or something instead of a flat $75K. (I think that's the right number...)
Under Kip's reign they would have probably let it go to the public vote.
I think one thing that needs to happen is a hard look at the homestead exemption. Make it a certain % up to a certain amount or something instead of a flat $75K. (I think that's the right number...)
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:37 am to upgrayedd
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These worthless fricks mismanage the money they already have. Until they get more efficient, they shouldn't get a penny more.
That's how i feel about every tax they try to pass, which is why i vote no for all of them.
We're too busy giving money to the council on aging, b/c the poor old people, boo hoo hoo, or giving money to build a new library. We vote for stupid shite like this, where money comes out of our pocket, but we get a tax proposal for something that will be funded by a hotel tax, and we vote against that. EBR-uh is full of idiots.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:41 am to LSUBoo
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It feels like this was just as much a vote against Broome as it was a vote against the specific tax.
Meh, you had people like Chauna Banks who complained about not having any projects in her district, and other councilpeople who saw other projects that were not in the plan a greater priority. The division in the Council regarding this plan was as advertised.
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Under Kip's reign they would have probably let it go to the public vote.
Have we forgotten that Kip had some of the same issues with the council getting things to a public vote?
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 8:45 am
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:15 am to c on z
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Have we forgotten that Kip had some of the same issues with the council getting things to a public vote?
I don't follow extremely closely, but I do remember he had several large bond proposals go to the public (including the one with the BR Alive project) and all failed in a public vote, after Metro Council approved them going on the ballot. There was also some sort of greenlight (or similar) tax on last November's ballot that was voted down. COA tax also passed through Metro Council and made the ballot.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:20 am to Supermoto Tiger
Our property taxes are actually pretty low. I'd love to have better roads. I'd pay more to have better roads.
But, if people want shitty traffic, so be it.
But, if people want shitty traffic, so be it.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:23 am to member12
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From my perspective, the biggest project listed that wasn't on the Green Light plan was the Pecue Lane interchange and widening and the Lee Drive enhancements. Nicholson is on the list already and will eventually happen as would Hooper Rd.
Yes, they began mixing apples w(old projects currently covered in Green Light 1) with new projects (Lee and Pecue) which are not in Green Light 1.
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I think those are all important, but they could have both been handled with a simple extension of the sales tax instead of revamping the whole setup to include a property tax. There are federal grants that they can apply for to extend bike trails incrementally or replace problem intersections with roundabouts when needed - but this administration is actually turning down federal grants for some things because they aren't focused in north Baton Rouge.
This is what is confusing people. The current half cent sales tax which finances Green Light One does NOI expire until 2030. This tax pays the bonds off. This tax fixes potholes and also does overlay. This tax will eventually pay for uncompleted Green Light projects; however, there isn't a lot left to pay for new stuff because most of the revenues goes to the old projects(bond payments).
We will continue to pay the 1/2 cent sales tax until 2030.
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After Green Light, the biggest kinks in the regional road network are either major state/federal highways or that damn antiquated section of I-10 that hasn't been touched since it was built.
Exactly, we can just do so much with our parish roads and bridges, but if we don't upgrade Airline Hwy., I-10 La. 30 and principal state and Federal highways, we can only do so much.
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If I were mayor, I would have never ever asked for a property tax. I think sales and consumption taxes are local cherries to pick if they need them badly enough. I don't think the state should try to go after that.
And therein lie some of the problem. When the state upped their sales taxes 25% (from 4 to 5 percent) it squeezed the parishes who traditionally found revenues that way. It forced them to levy higher property taxes, and as we know, that hits middle class homeowners hard who pay the sales taxes and the property taxes.
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