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Posted on 4/16/24 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
574 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 2:42 pm to
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Yeah, was trying to recall from memory. I looked into this when considering a position with the state. I just remember at 30 years you pretty much got both.


That's fair. I never looked into before, but I wanted to see what it was all about. I don't know how the federal government expects the average Joe to understand SS; it's a convoluted calculation.
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 3:20 pm to
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Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 3:46 pm to
The old adage that the private sector pays more but the public jobs have better benefits isn’t exactly true anymore.
When I was doing wage comparisons for government entities I found that in many locations they were paying more than the private sector. This was especially true for jobs that required less credentials.
Posted by shellbeachspeckzzz
nunya
Member since Jan 2024
251 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 3:57 pm to
but in an engineering setting, would that be the same?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72065 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:41 pm to
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Anyone that works for the state department loses all rights to bitch about government spending.
Everyone who works for any level of government from the janitor in Bunkie, LA, to the president should not be allowed to vote.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:36 pm to
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its an engineering job for CPRA.

Excellent starter position. Work it for 2-5 years, keep your eyes open. Leave on good terms. If you leave before you're vested, take your retirement out and put it in a qualified IRA. If you left on good terms, and things happen in the future, you can go back to state work, and buy your time back with the IRA.
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im young

Max out your pre-tax 401k/457b contributions as soon as you can. That way it doesn't matter if you retire from the state or industry, you'll have a good retirement.

I mean it, max it fricking out as soon as you can.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84082 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:57 pm to
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Everyone who works for any level of government from the janitor in Bunkie, LA, to the president should not be allowed to vote.


This is a take almost as bad as some of your early covid takes.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32957 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 6:23 pm to
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If i worked at cpra i would bust my arse everyday as a young engineer. im just passionate about the coast and doing what needs to be done to control it and save it.


A state job can be very rewarding in many ways other than financially. I like serving the public and protecting money. I get to do both in my position. It gives you a reason to go to work.
Posted by Boudreauboudreaugoly
Land of the Rice n Son
Member since Oct 2017
1040 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:13 pm to
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I worked much harder and longer hours working for the state.


Yes, and the 50% of state workers whose job it seems to be to get away with doing as absolutely as little as possible. Then the few people like you have to pick up that slack. Corruption and fraud is rampant. Almost impossible to fire slackers. Ask me how I know.
Posted by GeauxGoose
Nonya
Member since Dec 2006
2514 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:28 pm to
Posted by Redlos
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
1045 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:49 pm to
You can work on coastal projects in the private sector too…CPRA is on the smaller side of state agencies and not as bureaucratic as many other agencies. Its a good place to learn about coastal engineering as they still do actual design work in-house.

You can expect to make $10-15K more in the private sector, have more diversity of project work, and more growth potential. Along with that are higher expectations in productivity & accountability.

Good luck!
Posted by Ron Popeil
Mississippi coast
Member since Nov 2018
768 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:50 pm to
The lowest performing student in my graduating class at LSU holds a very high position in a government entity and probably makes double what the best student makes running her own business. I’m somewhere in the middle working for a corporation but about half what the frickup is making now. I should have listened to my advisor and took the low paying city job.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57218 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 10:21 pm to
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All agree that you could eliminate 30 to 40 % of the workforce and accomplish the same work if it was run efficiently like a private business.


Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98182 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 10:33 pm to
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Can you explain it to me in monkey terms what the retirement is like?


My brother will retire before age 60 at just under 100k and keep his medical insurance until Medicare kicks in at 65.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18206 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 11:47 pm to
Been talked about for years and the needle never moves. CONgress doesn’t give a shite.
Posted by willymeaux
Member since Mar 2012
4754 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:08 am to
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I guess I haven’t met any. They seem to be scraping the bottom of the barrel.


Did a state worker use his Acadian day holiday to fool around with your wife or something?
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14510 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:51 am to
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"but the actual workers in these positions and the workload are night and day"

I'm just countering the idea that "all state workers are worthless and just there to get a check".

Sure you have the "I'm on break" employee working the desk at the DMV and who seems to hate everybody. But on the other side of things, there are plenty of great employees working for the state, especially in the technical based positions where the work you put out makes a difference.
Posted by shellbeachspeckzzz
nunya
Member since Jan 2024
251 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:23 am to
Are you referring to CPRA, DOTD, DEQ etc?
Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7369 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:28 am to
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My brother will retire before age 60 at just under 100k and keep his medical insurance until Medicare kicks in at 65.
My brother is retiring in his early 50s.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
4596 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:13 am to
If you started working for the state right out of high school, you can retire before 50. Even right out of college, you retire early 50s.

Really not a bad deal, tbh.
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