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re: Pregnant Woman Slammed to Ground and Arrested for Refusing to Give Her Name
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:19 am to MasCervezas
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:19 am to MasCervezas
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That fricking bitch is a drain on society and so is the bastard in her belly. She deserved it.
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:22 am to CoachDon
I would give my name.
That has no bearing on this.
If you were a cop would arrest someone for not breaking the law?
That has no bearing on this.
If you were a cop would arrest someone for not breaking the law?
This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 8:24 am
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:26 am to novabill
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I would.
I call bullshite. No way you would refuse a Tennessee trooper your name and/or ID.
I've seen your other posts and understand your "big boy stance" on police issues. Every time there is a thread about police, you slam the police involved.
Why you so mad bro?
p.s. I copied your reply before you edited. Dummy.
This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 8:27 am
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:31 am to CoachDon
No dummy. I corrected it.
I have no bad interactions with the police. Also have nothing bad to say about them when they legally do their job. But think they need to subject to the same rules as everyone else when they break them.
You care to answer my question?
I have no bad interactions with the police. Also have nothing bad to say about them when they legally do their job. But think they need to subject to the same rules as everyone else when they break them.
You care to answer my question?
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:33 am to novabill
1. We had 2 girls at an office that were dreadful to eachother. Both were hard workers, cared deeply about our patients, and were well respected by everyone else in the office. The first one to file a complaint immediately became the 'victim.' Didn't make her right, she was just as guilty, but since she spoke up first, she immediately is the one getting the benefit of the doubt.
2. Anyone that has a kid knows this: If you say you're going to do something, especially discipline-wise, you better damn well do it. But, you damn well better not back yourself into a corner having to hold someone accountable to an arbitrary expectation. The cop didn't explain to the second woman what was going on and what was going to happen (NOTHING). She was immediately (understandably) defensive. Then he gives her this arbitrary 2 minute warning, which he almost immediately goes back on....
Completely mishandled by the cop. I wouldn't say he's a bad dude based on this, but he failed in this situation.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:36 am to novabill
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If you were a cop would arrest someone for not breaking the law?
Of course not.
We assume people would use "reasonable judgment" in their interactions and decisions. Neither party here used reasonable judgment.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:36 am to novabill
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If you were a cop would arrest someone for not breaking the law?
Of course not.
We assume people would use "reasonable judgment" in their interactions and decisions. Neither party here used reasonable judgment.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:45 am to CoachDon
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Of course not.
This
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. Neither party here used reasonable judgment.
The cop is the one trained and has the ability to take the others freedom. That is the one expect more from. You should as well.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:48 am to Cumulonimbus
Local police departments are far too powerful and overreaching. This is another scenario where they never should've been called and they never should've responded.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:53 am to Darth_Vader
Exactly, no laws were broken.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:55 am to novabill
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The cop is the one trained and has the ability to take the others freedom. That is the one expect more from. You should as well.
Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you, but we weren't addressing "expectations", and you are so busy deflecting the core of my statement, you can't see it. Simple, reasonable, civil interaction between 2 adults would have quelled any unfortunate incident.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 10:31 am to Hermit Crab
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But im guessing it was another instance where if she was just polite to the officers she could have been on her way in a few seconds.
I usually agree with this, but in this instance I don't think they needed to arrest anyone. not even sure why the cops were called in the first place.
and it seems like they only arrested her for "resisting arrest", I would think there needs to be a reason to be under arrest before you can resist it.
Yep. The cop even told the first woman that there was no crime committed. So there was no arrest to resist. He asked for the second woman's name when he admittedly had no suspiscion of a crime. She said no. He then took her down. Cop 100% in the wrong.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:13 pm to CoachDon
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Simple, reasonable, civil interaction between 2 adults would have quelled any unfortunate incident.
I agree with this. I just don't think it had to go where it did simply because she was not wanting to be reasonable and civil as long as unreasonable and uncivil one is not breaking the law.
You want to focus on the role of the irate lady, but the cause of the problem is the police wanting to enforce laws that do not exist. While the lady was unreasonable, I have no expectation of her being reasonable. However, I do have expectation that the police will conduct themselves in a consistent, reasonable and legal manner.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:16 pm to novabill
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I do have expectation that the police will conduct themselves in a consistent, reasonable and legal manner.
Why? They are human. Can they not have bad days? Imagine dealing with women like the one in the video everyday.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:37 pm to Topwater Trout
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Why? They are human
They have the power to take freedom. With that great power comes great responsibility.
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Imagine dealing with women like the one in the video everyday.
They cannot be allowed to take people's liberty because they are frustrated by someone, regardless of how irritating they become.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:47 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:THis can be otherwise stated as............their job.
Imagine dealing with women like the one in the video everyday
If they don't like it, they can choose another one.
The rest of us aren't allowed to assault people that frustrate us. If we do, a COP will come arrest us!!!
Posted on 5/29/15 at 5:22 pm to Cumulonimbus
When will yall stop looking at this as an individual problem as opposed to a cultural problem?
Posted on 5/29/15 at 5:27 pm to StrongSafety
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When will yall stop looking at this as an individual problem as opposed to a cultural problem?
agreed. As soon as we get this "keepin' it real" jargon shut down, I would think we would stop seeing so many stories about "police brutality"
This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 5:28 pm
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