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re: Overton, Tx Principal Arrested In Connection With Paddling

Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by GREENHEAD22
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Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:31 pm to
Padding needs to be done in every school.
Posted by Tempratt
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:19 am to
I wouldn't use "you."

We are excellent parents, have family members that are educators (principal and teacher) and they are exemplary people.

So using "you" in this response.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:22 am to
Anybody on here go to Lafayette Elementary in Lafayette and remember Coach Campbell ?
He’s be under the jail now !
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:25 am to
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Not Guilty. Case Closed.


just because the mother consented FOR her daughter doesn't mean you can hit someone with an object. that's insane.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:48 am to

No one ever spanked you with a belt or paddle?
Posted by Lump Beefbroth
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 8:02 am to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 8:07 am to
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just because the mother consented FOR her daughter doesn't mean you can hit someone with an object. that's insane.


not with how soft and dramatic society is these days, i guess not. your parents were negotiators huh?

Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 8:11 am to
Look I get the idea that its ridiculous this is a problem, regardless of mom consenting but even more so that she did. However, in the world we live in keeping spanking as even an option for punishment is setting yourself up for an outcome like this. Is it dumb that this is the end result? Yes. Should it be allowed as a punishment? You bet your arse. But the fact of the matter is that's just not the world we live in anymore unfortunately.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 8:35 am to
Understand your point, but the use of CP is still pretty common in some places. And many schools set up the protocols such that the student gets to choose between CP and suspension. So often, the principal has no discretion.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 8:42 am to
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No one ever spanked you with a belt or paddle?



not a school principal. that's insane to me. corporeal punishment is ineffective anyways and damaging to children. a 50 year study was done with 50k kids. pretty damning for the pro spanking/paddling crowd.
Posted by footswitch
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 8:42 am to
bullshite
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 8:52 am to

What's your advice? Withhold a play date?
Posted by IlikeyouBetty
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 9:05 am to
I got paddled in 6th grade for cutting through the coach's office at P.E. I had a broken collar bone and my right arm was strapped to my torso so I could heal properly. Could probably get a pretty nice chunk of change if that happened nowadays.
Posted by OlGrandad
Member since Oct 2009
3540 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 9:14 am to
I got ten from the principal for chewing gum in class.

I begged the principal not to let parents know.

He was an ok guy.

edit to add: That was in the day when the teacher ruled his/her class.

Teachers sent the rule breakers to the principal after warnings.
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 9:16 am
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 9:19 am to
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An arrest affidavit for Hogg said that the principal caused bodily injury to a female student by striking her three times with a wooden paddle on Aug. 14.
Ironically “hog” was allegedly their safe word.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 9:23 am to
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If he wasn’t arrested he should be fired for being retarded.

I swear some of the people working in schools are the dumbest mfs on the planet


Can you show me where the school district said paddling was against school policy?
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 9:30 am to
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What does everyone think about this?
I'm anti-kid-beating and it's sad that parents still send children to these public schools.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 9:43 am to
Even way back in my day, they didn't let men paddle female students. We had a lesbian volleyball coach that held that duty. The girls would have rather been paddled by a male than her.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16295 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 9:44 am to
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This whole concept of a principal beating a child with a wooden board is so bizarre to me, I can't even process it. 2023.


If the parents don't do it at home, someone needs to.

We've turned into this "no spanking" society and look where it's gotten us.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 9:53 am to
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bullshite


50-year-study-finds-spanking-doesnt-work

Researchers from the University of Texas at Austin and University of Michigan looked at 75 studies involving more than 150,000 children over 50 years. They found that children who were spanked were more likely to defy their parents.

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Spanking raises risks of anti-social behavior, 50-year study finds
Most Americans still strongly support the idea of spanking kids, but a new study says spanking doesn't work and can make kids aggressive later on.


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The team at the University of Texas at Austin and the University of Michigan focused on open-handed spanking — not beatings. They wanted to see if the time-honored practice really works as well as people believe it does.

It doesn't, they report in the Journal of Family Psychology.

"The upshot of the study is that spanking increases the likelihood of a wide variety of undesired outcomes for children. Spanking thus does the opposite of what parents usually want it to do," said Andrew Grogan-Kaylor of the University of Michigan School of Social Work, who worked on the study.

The team did what's called a meta-analysis, looking at hundreds of studies on spanking. They teased out very specific information about the "punishment which is known in the U.S. as spanking, and which we define as hitting a child on their buttocks or extremities using an open hand," they wrote.

"Our analysis focuses on what most Americans would recognize as spanking and not on potentially abusive behaviors," said Elizabeth Gershoff of the University of Texas at Austin.

They made a list of 17 undesirable outcomes, from immediate defiance to alcohol abuse in adulthood. Kids who were spanked more often failed in 13 out of the 17, they found.

The more kids are spanked, the greater the risk

Studies have shown that spanking can damage a child's IQ or ability to learn; that it trigger aggressiveness and worsens behavior. Gershoff says the pattern is consistent when a large number of studies are put together.

"In childhood, parental use of spanking was associated with low moral internalization, aggression, antisocial behavior, externalizing behavior problems, internalizing behavior problems, mental health problems, negative parent- child relationships, impaired cognitive ability, low self-esteem, and risk of physical abuse from parents. In adulthood, prior experiences of parental use of spanking were significantly associated with adult antisocial behavior, adult mental health problems, and with positive attitudes about spanking," they wrote.
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