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OT Aquarists: Native Fish Tank
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:03 pm
Do any of y'all have a native fish tank set up? I've been thinking about setting up a tank with some sunfish and madtom catfish. Any advice/what do y'all have?
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:38 pm to STLDawg
I had a 55 gal in college with sun fish and a largemouth.
Turned into a 55gal with an overweight largemouth.
Turned into a 55gal with an overweight largemouth.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:58 pm to STLDawg
believe it or not, I have never heard of a "madtom"...you taught me something. 
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:00 pm to STLDawg
Why would you want some ugly arse fish you could catch in the lake behind your house? Get a clownfish you fricking pussy
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:30 pm to Grim
Some types of bream are quite pretty: redear, sunfish, crappie. Probably want to do some research on predator/prey to avoid losing fish mysteriously.
Also try to stratify the tank (bottom feeders, top water feeders, mid level feeders). Stratification allows more fish per tank generally.
Also try to stratify the tank (bottom feeders, top water feeders, mid level feeders). Stratification allows more fish per tank generally.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:34 pm to STLDawg
Watch Finding Nemo.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 12:10 am to STLDawg
First: bass, blue gill, red ear, sac a lait (crappie) get big. Think 200gal tank! Bass will eat the madtoms and small to medium sized sunfish. Crappie really can be difficult to feed since they prefer live minnows.
Green sunfish can have really bad attitudes to tank mates. Some are fine, personalities are highly variable for all sunfish. Long ears need to be housed single or with 3 or more fish to spread out territorial aggression. Orange spotted are the most laid back. Give the madtom hiding places that are shady or dark. Using a small school of large shiners can lower aggression. Don't heat water to upper 70s, but think cichlids in care and feeding. They need high oxygen and good quality water. 75 gal minimum, 100 gal better, even more better still.
Best caught with nets, but file barbs off hooks. Hook wounds usually heal very well, but pay attention for infection until they do. Wet hands before handling fish to protect slime and scales.
Enjoy!
Green sunfish can have really bad attitudes to tank mates. Some are fine, personalities are highly variable for all sunfish. Long ears need to be housed single or with 3 or more fish to spread out territorial aggression. Orange spotted are the most laid back. Give the madtom hiding places that are shady or dark. Using a small school of large shiners can lower aggression. Don't heat water to upper 70s, but think cichlids in care and feeding. They need high oxygen and good quality water. 75 gal minimum, 100 gal better, even more better still.
Best caught with nets, but file barbs off hooks. Hook wounds usually heal very well, but pay attention for infection until they do. Wet hands before handling fish to protect slime and scales.
Enjoy!
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 12:25 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 5:21 am to STLDawg
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Do any of y'all have a native fish tank set up? I've been thinking about setting up a tank with some sunfish and madtom catfish. Any advice/what do y'all have?
Check out monsterfishkeepers.com. Those hobbyist have some gigantic and amazing tanks. Lot of good advice on care and tank setup.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 5:33 am to STLDawg
Not worth it imo. Most need plenty of room (150 gallons+) and are not the friendliest of fish.
At least LA fish fit the above criteria
At least LA fish fit the above criteria
Posted on 7/15/17 at 8:46 am to STLDawg
Pretty arrogant of you to imprison a harmless creature like that dontyathink...
Posted on 7/15/17 at 9:07 am to STLDawg
Had a 2" chain pickerel and a 4" gar last year. The pickerel was a beast. Drop a minnow in there and it would fly from the corner and grab it as soon as it hit the water. The gar would ease up from under them very slowly and just sit there. Once the minnow got right above it would snatch it. Cool to watch. They got big quick though
Posted on 7/15/17 at 12:55 pm to Ron Cheramie
Gar lazily float around like logs. Pickerel come out of the vegetation like tigers! 
Doesn't pay to be prey either way.
Doesn't pay to be prey either way.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 1:09 pm to Sidicous
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bream crappie
Can someone explain the spelling/pronunciation discrepancies with these two? That's my interest in this thread.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 1:17 pm to STLDawg
I had a 100'gal with gars, bass, bream and catfish
we would catch them city park lagoons and bring them home to the tank
the bream were the meanest
the bass would eat goldfish till they were stuffed then go kill all the other ones
gar were the coolest, mine you could hand feed...but they were always jumping out of the tank
we would catch them city park lagoons and bring them home to the tank
the bream were the meanest
the bass would eat goldfish till they were stuffed then go kill all the other ones
gar were the coolest, mine you could hand feed...but they were always jumping out of the tank
Posted on 7/15/17 at 1:56 pm to High C
quote:
Can someone explain the spelling/pronunciation discrepancies with these two? That's my interest in this thread.
Bream are actually an European trash fish, that are roughly the size and shape of a bluegill. Many Americans call pan fish or sunfish bream and perch. Pronounced like brim of a hat or cup.
Crappie are native pan fish that are in the sunfish family like bass and fliers. They are flatter than the bluegill sunfish group. Excellent eating. Flesh is firm, flakey, tastie, and very white. Called sac a lait (bag of milk) by French Louisiana. Pronounced just like you think it is, crappy.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:07 pm to Jones
quote:
Not worth it imo. Most need plenty of room (150 gallons+) and are not the friendliest of fish.
Not sure on size needed, but not a huge fan of big fish little aquarium.
I like native setups though
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:12 pm to STLDawg
Stock it with small sac o lait and bream. Once they start getting a decent size, put a half pound choupique in there and watch the fun begin.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:14 pm to Gaspergou202
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Pronounced just like you think it is, crappy.
Every time I hear someone say it, it's croppie. We call them white perch just as often.
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