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re: Oppose the proposed ULM School of Osteopathic Manipulative "Medicine"

Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:28 pm to
this is a transparent attempt to promote his own selfish interest and deny patients the right to choose their own mode of treatment


this clown is an anti-free market proponent of a socialized the medical system

i say we beat the shite out of him
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:28 pm to
Some of them don't take the usmle
Posted by KarlMalonesFlipPhone
Member since Sep 2015
3848 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

Protect the practice of medicine in Louisiana and the future of the School of Medicine in Shreveport. Oppose pseudomedicine.


As an MD I'm embarrassed to call you a colleague. Some of my best co-residents are DOs and you would never know unless you saw it on their coat. This isn't the fricking 80s, it's time to grow up. They produce great physicians the same as MD programs do. This state needs more physicians, unless you are cool with NPs filling that gap?
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
175824 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

. Sometimes they don't know anatomy when they call other doctors
i bet you're familiar with your own a-hole since your head is up it
Posted by JonTigerFan11
Member since May 2016
867 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:32 pm to
Ok so MCAT and College grades mean absolutely nothing. Those are just factors in getting in. They do not determine whether you are a good physician. So you are saying their schools are smaller and have less resources so they are therefore pseudoscience? Do you actually know anything specific about these schools?
Posted by Cleopatra
Member since May 2016
172 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:35 pm to
Well, they apply to the same residencies as MDs & we all know (as another poster said) that's where the majority of your knowledge comes from. The science is important, but the hands on experience is key. As long as you know how to use your resources, one will be just fine. Who is to say the person graduating last in medical school is any better than the ones graduating top of their class in DO school? You get out what you put in to your education.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:36 pm to
I am saying their field is based on musculoskeletal manipulation which is not science
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29237 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:36 pm to
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It's not a hard distinction if you go thru medical training and watch


It's funny how every other person in this thread who did go through medical training doesn't agree with you.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:37 pm to
We are trying to compare all MDs to all dos
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
175824 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:37 pm to
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It's funny how every other person in this thread who did go through medical training doesn't agree with you.

plus, I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night







where i banged the OPs mom
Posted by Cleopatra
Member since May 2016
172 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:41 pm to
You literally have no argument.

Individuals like you are literally being pushed out of healthcare slowly by my generation because you guys cannot adapt to the healthcare model change.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34649 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:42 pm to
Shreveport will be just fine...this school at ULM is needed and there should be either a med school or a DO school in Alexandria as well...
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:42 pm to
Defend the pseudoscience of omm
Posted by Respublica88
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Nov 2011
3618 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:42 pm to
DO here tigerdoc

Did my training at a new DO school in Mississippi, trained years 3/4 at ummc in Jackson
Got into my first choice allopathic residency in Louisiana

Wish I could forward you my grades from years 3 and 4 from life time educators in a historical allopathic teaching hospital. Including acknowledgement of the strengths of my didactic knowledge

You're short sided and your past experiences with some osteopathic physicians probably skewed your perception of all of us. I am sorry you're not able to understand that sir/ma'am.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62406 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:42 pm to
I've been a DO General Surgeon for 20 years now. Anything you want to know about my training, fire away. I'm sure I can handle it. Me and my wife ( no pics)are looking to come back home after 25 years out of State. I'll be in Eunice on Wednesday this week to look at a job at the Acadiana hospital. Hope this sentiment isn't widespread....
This post was edited on 6/3/17 at 8:46 pm
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:44 pm to
Can you share any evidence with us that DO's provide substandard care and cause harm?

That is the only important measure in my opinion.
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
175824 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:44 pm to
quote:

vl100butch

thanks, my overwhelming concern must be obvious
Posted by Respublica88
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Nov 2011
3618 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:45 pm to
If you looked at the principles of manipulative medicine... you would understand how much sense it makes

If you've studied it, practiced it, seen its results and still are calling it a "pseudo-science"...
Then more power to you. But I guarantee you haven't.

FYI in osteopathic school ... first and second year curriculum is nearly identical to allopathic medicine but we also do over 6-10 hours a week of OMM
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29237 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

I've been a DO General Surgoen for 20 years now.


You mean you don't use OMM on your gallbladders!?!
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62406 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:47 pm to
You mean you don't use OMM on your gallbladders!?!

Good one. If you call palpating of the right upper quadrant during patient inspiration, then yes I do.
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