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re: Only one contractor bids to remove New Orleans' confederate monuments, wants $600,000

Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by Hickok
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:26 pm to
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Reconstruction government.

You make it seem like forced enslavement through taxation of a society is a good thing.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:48 pm to
there is no engineering available for the lift(s)
I'm surprised cruzan bid at all
I wouldn't do it for 600K no matter what I thought the real cost would be
too much liability
Posted by Hammertime
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:48 pm to
I thought nobody had any idea how the statues were attached, what the inside of the foundation looked like, how the foundation is attached to the ground, etc?

If I was an insurance company, I'd tell the contractor he wasn't covered to move them.

I wish they would just let this die. Nobody cares anymore. Only seven people cared when Bitch brought it up
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:55 pm to
Will be interesting to see how this one plays out.....
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:06 pm to
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I thought nobody had any idea how the statues were attached, what the inside of the foundation looked like, how the foundation is attached to the ground, etc?


In the bid package it details how each statue is attached.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:09 pm to
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there is no engineering available for the lift(s)


At least in NY that's a part of means and methods to develop a pick plan. It's usually on the construction engineer to develop that. They might have one in house to guestimate a plan and costs.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:10 pm to
I can do it for $200k.

Hire a bunch of Mexicans to work the machinery on the others, hire a black owned crane company to take down lee.

Use a out of state po box llc.

Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9468 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:43 pm to
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there is no engineering available for the lift(s)


At least in NY that's a part of means and methods to develop a pick plan. It's usually on the construction engineer to develop that. They might have one in house to guestimate a plan and costs.
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The bid package included approximate specs on the statues: size, weight and composition. It specified that the be removed undamaged and crated for safe transportation and storage.

Removal of the Lee pedestal was not part of the package.

Removal of the entire Beauregard base is required, but it's not a straight out demolition. Some cladding, granite and architectural features around the
base are to be salvaged and returned to the city.

I'd guess Jefferson Davis will be the first to go. The bust is the smallest of the three included in the bid and is only 8' or 10' off the ground.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:45 pm to
And $600,000 is a ridiculous price. The only justification I can possibly imagine is that the contractor will contract with mercenaries to provided 24 hour security.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
31027 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:49 pm to
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And $600,000 is a ridiculous price.


Since no one else bid, is it really a ridiculous price?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
39021 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:51 pm to
I have a copy of the bid package in my office
there is no engineering for the lifts included and liability is strictly on the contractor
as I said I wouldn't do it for 600K
YMMV
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9468 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:04 pm to
The bid package included approximate specs on the statues: size, weight and composition. It specified that the be removed undamaged and crated for safe transportation and storage.
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I didn't say the package included engineering details or a lift plan. I said they provided approximate dimensions, weights and material compositions of the statues.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
76660 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:08 pm to
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sounds like they are just removing the statues and not the bases as well. This is going to look terrible with just the bases sitting there with nothing on top.

They'll inevitably be replaced with MLK statues. Maybe with luck we'll get a louis Armstrong one too.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
39021 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:08 pm to
why didnt you bid then?
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:11 pm to
I've got more work than I can handle already and this project doesn't seem like it would be worth the aggravation.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:12 pm to
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Are the animals that are committing the violent murders in N.O. going to put their guns down if and when these are removed?

I'd expect so. If nothing else, Mitch won't have to bawl like a baby every time he drives by them anymore. His tender heart will be spared the trauma.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
39021 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:14 pm to
which is exactly what I said, and exactly why the lone bid was so high
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:16 pm to
Why wouldn't some out of state contractor come in and bid on this job? I'd imagine there's at least ONE black owned company somewhere that would do it for pennies.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:20 pm to
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bet if you took a survey of this board, 75% couldn't point out what it was memorializing.

If you surveyed New Orleanians, 90% couldn't tell you the location of any of the statues except Lee Circle, and 99% couldn't tell you who those men were.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
76660 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:22 pm to
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quote:
will do this for 100k. Rent a truck, some tools, and 10 mexicans for a day.

I'll make 75k profit.



According to my spreadsheet, you're overpaying your Mexicans.

Where do you get your Mexicans? Who's your Mexican dealer?
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