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re: Oil back below $40

Posted on 8/2/16 at 8:47 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 8:47 am to
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People outside of the upstream/downstream side of O&G must be the ones who downvoted this statement...




Huh? Are you suggesting there is some validity to that statement?
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29594 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Asgard Device


You have talked out of your arse so much in this thread. Good God.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11962 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Huh? Are you suggesting there is some validity to that statement?

Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 8:53 am to
quote:

People outside of the upstream/downstream side of O&G must be the ones who downvoted this statement...


Wrong.

Please explain how the price of gas is not related to the price of oil.


Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11962 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 8:57 am to
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CptRusty


I see your cool chart/graph and will match it with another! HA!

Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
23112 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:00 am to
There sure are a lot of experts in this thread.
I'm taking notes!
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33196 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:01 am to
quote:

Gas prices have little to do with oil prices

I love when people say stupid shite trying to sound "in the know"
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:01 am to
What the hell does that prove? The majority of the "cost" of gasoline is derived from the cost of crude oil, and out of those four inputs, crude oil is by far the most volatile and affects the price the most.
This post was edited on 8/2/16 at 9:04 am
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29594 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:02 am to
It's all about what Illuminati decides it will be. If you don't realize it, you are part of the globalist problem.

Wake up people.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173749 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:02 am to
quote:



Gas prices have little to do with oil prices



Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:03 am to
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Crude Oil 68%


In the words of the wise sage, DJ Khaled:

Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11962 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:04 am to
quote:

What the hell does that prove? The majority of the "cost" of gasoline is derived from the cost of crude oil


Lol I know.... at this point, I'm just fricking with you...
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11962 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:07 am to
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In the words of the wise sage, DJ Khaled:


Dude, you could have gotten at least a GIF!!!!

Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20151 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:11 am to
Has anyone mentioned that all us non O&G folks need to tighten our belts and pay $5 a gallon so that Operators can come on the OT and brag about their lifestyle?
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11962 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:12 am to
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Has anyone mentioned that all us non O&G folks need to tighten our belts and pay $5 a gallon so that Operators can come on the OT and brag about their lifestyle?


Lol I haven't seen that one yet. But the $5 a gallon wouldn't really apply to certain operators (i.e. refinery operators)...just fyi
Posted by chauncey1
Member since May 2010
298 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:18 am to
Corporate is on the ball.

An interesting narrative that OPEC came up with in the early 2000's was the price band mechanism. It essentially was a target price that would discourage alternative energy investment while allowing OPEC member countries prosper. When prices increased, OPEC governments expanded their state sponsored benefits. Venezuela is a great example.

-The advances in hydraulic fracturing technology and horizontal drilling allowed for competition to OPEC’s conventional reservoirs. It allowed for fine tuning of the methods that Mitchell Energy worked on in the Barnett Shale. “Shale” and hydraulic fracturing altered the game. Increased shale exploration would likely have not occurred in absence of higher prices.

-While shale wells are not competitive with Saudi fields, there are areas that can make decent ROI even at current strip.

- Majors have been challenged on shale development because of overhead and lack of efficiency.

- Independents will be challenged with reduced number of economic locations and redeterminations.

- Private equity backed companies will be challenged because of the high cost of the dollars.

-Several people have previously discussed strategic reserves. A good book to read is “The Prize”.

-With high energy prices the green movement was further catalyzed and solar and ethanol subsidies were increased.

-From an economic standpoint, oil and gas makes up a larger portion of our economy than it did during the 90’s. It somewhat softened the blow of the great recession. That however is matter of debate.

This post was edited on 8/2/16 at 9:24 am
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43449 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:20 am to
So today in the OT, I learned that the price of primary resource of a major distributed good has zero correlation with distributed good price... lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:29 am to
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I'll check pricing on Leap puts and post later today. Seems to me if your speculation is close to accurate, and I have no reason to believe it isn't a logical guess, any low priced Leap would be a good way to take a speculative short without risking much capital and having a loss certain.


Play it just like you would community banks in Iowa should corn drop to under $.50 for an extended period of time. The business loans that are bad is the train wreck, the mortgages and vehicle defaults are the cancer. JMHO
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7189 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:30 am to
You also learned that according to extremely misinformed people who refuse to look at oil output trends and facts here, the saudi's have flooded the market and caused this glut.

I work in the heart and soul of upstream oil and gas, and if you believe anyone but America caused this, you're oblivious to the facts and just want to point the finger at someone else.
Posted by chauncey1
Member since May 2010
298 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:36 am to
Gasoline prices are obviously related to oil prices. However there are other factors that can contribute to an increase or decrease in gasoline prices given oil prices being static. Refinery capacity is a great example.

Natural gas prices are no longer tied to oil directly. Some people confuse oil, natural gas and gasoline.

Just an obvious statement- all oils are not created equal. Certain oils will yield a higher gasoline quantity than others and can demand greater or lesser price than another oil depending on the market and refinery demand in the area. Oil sale price is not always tied to WTI in an area.
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