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Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:18 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:18 am
It seems like when people talk about moving "out West", they mention California, Arizona, Washington, and Colorado.

What about New Mexico? Is it the Mississippi of the West? No one seems to talk about it as the place to go.

Posted by Boo Krewe
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good food ? you can go on nature walks
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:20 am to
All the green chilies you can eat
Posted by DWaginHTown
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Posted by Bruce_Wayne
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Southern New Mexico sucks bad.

Albuquerque is nice as well as the northern part.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:20 am to
Safer to visit than Old Mexico.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:21 am to
Taos is beautiful! I'm not built for the desert, though. Don't think I could live in any arid climate.
Posted by LasVegasTiger
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:21 am to
Pretty good meth.
Posted by Bossier2323
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:22 am to
Old Mexico < New Mexico
Posted by AnonymousTiger
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:22 am to
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New Mexico (Spanish: Nuevo México ['nweßo 'mexiko]; Navajo: Yootó Hahoodzo [jo:tó haho:dzo]) is a state located in the southwestern region of the United States. It was admitted to the union as the 47th state on January 6, 1912. It is usually considered one of the Mountain States. New Mexico is the fifth-most extensive, the 36th-most populous, and the sixth-least densely populated of the 50 United States.

Inhabited by indigenous peoples of the Americas for many centuries before European exploration, New Mexico was subsequently part of the Imperial Spanish viceroyalty of New Spain. Later, it was part of Mexico before becoming a U.S. territory and eventually a U.S. state. Among U.S. states, New Mexico has the highest percentage of Hispanics, including descendants of Spanish colonists who have lived in the area for more than 400 years. It also has the second-highest percentage of Native Americans after Alaska, and the fourth-highest total number of Native Americans after California, Oklahoma, and Arizona.[6] The nations in the state consist of mostly Navajo, Pueblo, and Apache peoples. As a result, the demographics and culture of the state are unique for their strong Hispanic and Native American influences, both of which are reflected in the state flag. The scarlet and gold colors of the New Mexico flag are taken from the royal standards of Spain, along with the ancient sun symbol of the Zia, a Pueblo-related tribe.[7]

New Mexico, or Nuevo México in Spanish, is often incorrectly believed to have taken its name from the nation of Mexico. However, New Mexico was given its name in 1563, and again in 1581, by Spanish explorers who believed the area contained wealthy Indian cultures similar to those of the Mexica (Aztec) Empire.[8][9][10] Mexico, formerly a part of New Spain, adopted its name centuries later in 1821, after winning independence from Spanish rule. Consequently, New Mexico was only a part of the independent federal republic of Mexico for 12 years, 1836 through 1848. The two developed as neighboring Spanish-speaking communities, with relatively independent histories.
Posted by Paddyshack
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:22 am to
An abundance of meth... If you're into that sort of thing.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:22 am to
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Southern New Mexico sucks bad.


This. Las Crucas and Silver City areas aren't too bad, though.
Posted by AnonymousTiger
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:23 am to
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The state's total area is 121,412 square miles (314,460 km2).[11] The eastern border of New Mexico lies along 103° W longitude with the state of Oklahoma, and three miles (5 km) west of 103° W longitude with Texas.[12] On the southern border, Texas makes up the eastern two-thirds, while the Mexican states of Chihuahua and Sonora make up the western third, with Chihuahua making up about 90% of that. The western border with Arizona runs along the 109° 03' W longitude.[11] The southwestern corner of the state is known as the Bootheel. The 37° N latitude parallel forms the northern boundary with Colorado. The states New Mexico, Colorado, Arizona, and Utah come together at the Four Corners in the northwestern corner of New Mexico. New Mexico, although a large state, has very little water. Its surface water area is about 250 square miles (650 km2).

The New Mexican landscape ranges from wide, rose-colored deserts to broken mesas to high, snow-capped peaks. Despite New Mexico's arid image, heavily forested mountain wildernesses cover a significant portion of the state, especially towards the north. The Sangre de Cristo Mountains, the southernmost part of the Rocky Mountains, run roughly north-south along the east side of the Rio Grande in the rugged, pastoral north. The most important of New Mexico's rivers are the Rio Grande, Pecos, Canadian, San Juan, and Gila. The Rio Grande is tied for the fourth-longest river in the U.S.[13]

The U.S. government protects millions of acres of New Mexico as national forests, including:[14]

Carson National Forest
Cibola National Forest (headquartered in Albuquerque)
Lincoln National Forest
Santa Fe National Forest (headquartered in Santa Fe)
Gila National Forest
Gila Wilderness
Areas managed by the National Park Service include:[15]

Aztec Ruins National Monument at Aztec
Bandelier National Monument in Los Alamos
Capulin Volcano National Monument near Capulin
Carlsbad Caverns National Park near Carlsbad
Chaco Culture National Historical Park at Nageezi
El Camino Real de Tierra Adentro National Historic Trail
El Malpais National Monument in Grants
El Morro National Monument in Ramah
Fort Union National Monument at Watrous
Gila Cliff Dwellings National Monument near Silver City
Old Spanish National Historic Trail
Pecos National Historical Park in Pecos
Petroglyph National Monument near Albuquerque
Salinas Pueblo Missions National Monument at Mountainair
Santa Fe National Historic Trail
White Sands National Monument near Alamogordo
Rio Grande del Norte National Monument near Taos
Valles Caldera National Preserve
Visitors also frequent the surviving native pueblos of New Mexico. Tourists visiting these sites bring significant money to the state. Other areas of geographical and scenic interest include Kasha-Katuwe Tent Rocks National Monument and the Gila Wilderness in the southwest of the state.

Climate[edit]
The climate of New Mexico is generally semiarid to arid, though areas of continental and alpine climates exist, and its territory is mostly covered by mountains, high plains, and desert. The Great Plains (High Plains) are located in Eastern New Mexico, similar to the Colorado high plains in eastern Colorado. The two states share similar terrain, with both having plains, mountains, basins, mesas, and desert lands. New Mexico's average precipitation rate is 13.9 inches (350 mm) a year. The average annual temperatures can range from 64 °F (18 °C) in the southeast to below 40 °F (4 °C) in the northern mountains.[11] During the summer, daytime temperatures can often exceed 100 °F (38 °C) at elevations below 5,000 feet (1,500 m), the average high temperature in July ranges from 97 °F (36 °C) at the lower elevations down to 78 °F (26 °C) at the higher elevations. Many cities in New Mexico can have temperature lows in the teens. The highest temperature recorded in New Mexico was 122 °F (50 °C) at the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant near Loving on June 27, 1994, and the lowest recorded temperature is -50 °F (-46 °C) at Gavilan on February 1, 1951.[16]

Flora and fauna[edit]

Greater roadrunner (the state bird of NM)
New Mexico contains extensive habitat for many plants and animals, especially in desert areas and piñon-juniper woodlands. creosote bush, mesquite, cacti, yucca, and desert grasses, including black grama, purple three-awn, tobosa, and burrograss, cover the broad, semiarid plains of the southern portion of the state. The northern portion of the state is home to many tree species such as ponderosa pine, aspen, cottonwood, spruce, fir, and Russian olive, which is an invasive species. Native birds include the greater roadrunner (Geococcyx californianus, the state bird of New Mexico)[17] and wild turkey (Meleagris gallopavo).[18] Other fauna present in New Mexico include black bears, cougars, jaguars, coyotes, porcupines, skunks, Mexican gray wolves, deer, elk, Plains bison, collared peccary, bighorn sheep, squirrels, chipmunks, pronghorns, western diamondbacks, kangaroo rats, jackrabbits, and a multitude of other birds, reptiles, and rodents. The black bear native to New Mexico, Ursus americanus amblyceps, was formally adopted as the state's official animal in 1953.[19]
Posted by SabiDojo
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Sounds pretty poor.
Posted by Pettifogger
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New Mexico has a lot of shite but plenty to like.

If you're an artist you can go live in Santa Fe. But nobody else relocates to New Mexico. You relocate to Dallas and then buy property in Ruidoso or Cloudcroft or Red River.
Posted by AnonymousTiger
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The first known inhabitants of New Mexico were members of the Clovis culture of Paleo-Indians.[20]:19 Later inhabitants include American Indians of the Mogollon and Ancestral Pueblo peoples cultures.[21]:52 By the time of European contact in the 16th century, the region was settled by the villages of the Pueblo peoples and groups of Navajo, Apache, and Ute.[20]:6,48

Francisco Vásquez de Coronado assembled an enormous expedition at Compostela in 1540–1542 to explore and find the mystical Seven Golden Cities of Cibola as described by Fray Marcos de Niza.[21]:19–24 The name Nuevo México was first used by a seeker of gold mines named Francisco de Ibarra, who explored far to the north of Mexico in 1563 and reported his findings as being in "a New Mexico".[22] Juan de Oñate officially established the name when he was appointed the first governor of the new Province of New Mexico in 1598.[21]:36–37 The same year, he founded the San Juan de los Caballeros colony, the first permanent European settlement in the future state of New Mexico,[23] on the Rio Grande near Ohkay Owingeh Pueblo.[21]:37 Oñate extended El Camino Real de Tierra Adentro, Royal Road of the Interior, by 700 miles (1,100 km) from Santa Bárbara, Chihuahua, to his remote colony.[24]:49

The settlement of Santa Fe was established at the foot of the Sangre de Cristo Mountains, the southernmost subrange of the Rocky Mountains, around 1608.[24]:182 The city, along with most of the settled areas of the state, was abandoned by the Spanish for 12 years (1680–92) as a result of the successful Pueblo Revolt.[25] After the death of the Pueblo leader Popé, Diego de Vargas restored the area to Spanish rule.[21]:68–75 While developing Santa Fe as a trade center, the returning settlers founded Albuquerque in 1706 from existing surrounding communities,[21]:84 naming it for the viceroy of New Spain, Francisco Fernández de la Cueva, 10th Duke of Alburquerque.[26]


Province of New Mexico when it belonged to Mexico in 1824
As a part of New Spain, the claims for the province of New Mexico passed to independent Mexico in 1821 following the Mexican War of Independence.[21]:109 The Republic of Texas claimed the portion east of the Rio Grande when it seceded from Mexico in 1836, when it incorrectly assumed the older Hispanic settlements of the upper Rio Grande were the same as the newly established Mexican settlements of Texas. Texas' only attempt to establish a presence or control in the claimed territory was the failed Texan Santa Fe Expedition, when their entire army was captured and jailed by Hispanic New Mexico militia.

The extreme northeastern part of New Mexico was owned by France, and sold to the United States as part of the Louisiana Purchase in 1803.[27] By 1800, the Spanish population had reached 25,000, but Apache and Comanche raids on Hispanic settlers were common until well into the period of U.S. occupation.[28]

Civil war effects in New Mexico

New Mexico territory included Arizona, 1860

Territories now divided, 1866
Following the Mexican–American War, from 1846–48 and the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 1848, Mexico ceded its mostly unsettled northern holdings, today known as the American Southwest and California, to the United States of America.[21]:132 In the Compromise of 1850, Texas ceded its claims to the area lying east of the Rio Grande in exchange for $10 million [21]:135 and the US government established the New Mexico Territory on September 9, 1850, including most of the present-day states of Arizona and New Mexico, and part of Colorado. The United States acquired the southwestern boot heel of the state and southern Arizona below the Gila River in the mostly desert Gadsden Purchase of 1853, which was related to the construction by the US of a transcontinental railroad.[21]:136

The compromise of 1850 created the current boundary between New Mexico and Texas. It is also considered during this time a surveyor's error awarded the Permian Basin to the State of Texas, which included the city of El Paso. Claims to the Permian were initially dropped by New Mexico in a bid to gain statehood in 1911.

New Mexico played a role in the Trans-Mississippi Theater of the American Civil War. Both Confederate and Union governments claimed ownership and territorial rights over New Mexico Territory. In 1861, the Confederacy claimed the southern tract as its own Arizona Territory and waged the ambitious New Mexico Campaign in an attempt to control the American Southwest and open up access to Union California. Confederate power in the New Mexico Territory was effectively broken after the Battle of Glorieta Pass in 1862. However, the Confederate territorial government continued to operate out of Texas, and Confederate troops marched under the Arizona flag until the end of the war. Additionally, over 8,000 troops from New Mexico Territory served the Union.[29]


Homesteader and his children in Pie Town, New Mexico, 1940
Congress admitted New Mexico as the 47th state in the Union on January 6, 1912.[21]:166

A major oil discovery in 1928 brought prosperity to the state, especially Lea County and the town of Hobbs, named for James Hobbs, who was a homesteader there in 1907.[30] The Midwest State No. 1 well, begun in late 1927 with a standard cable-tool drilling rig, revealed the first signs of oil from the Hobbs field on June 13, 1928. Drilled to 4,330 feet and completed a few months later, the well produced 700 barrels of oil per day on state land. The Midwest Refining Company's Hobbs well produced oil until 2002. The New Mexico Bureau of Mines and Mineral Resources called it "the most important single discovery of oil in New Mexico's history".[31]

During World War II, the first atomic bombs were designed and manufactured at Los Alamos and the first was tested at Trinity site in the desert between Socorro and Alamogordo on what is now White Sands Missile Range .[21]:179–180

Historical population
Census Pop. %±
1850 61,547 —
1860 93,516 51.9%
1870 91,874 -1.8%
1880 119,565 30.1%
1890 160,282 34.1%
1900 195,310 21.9%
1910 327,301 67.6%
1920 360,350 10.1%
1930 423,317 17.5%
1940 531,818 25.6%
1950 681,187 28.1%
1960 951,023 39.6%
1970 1,017,055 6.9%
1980 1,303,302 28.1%
1990 1,515,069 16.2%
2000 1,819,046 20.1%
2010 2,059,179 13.2%
Est. 2015 2,085,109 1.3%
Source: 1910–2010[32]
2015 estimate[2]
New Mexico has benefited from federal government spending. It is home to three Air Force bases, White Sands Missile Range, and the federal research laboratories Los Alamos National Laboratory and Sandia National Laboratories. The state's population grew rapidly after World War II, growing from 531,818 in 1940 to 1,819,046 in 2000.[33] Employment growth areas in New Mexico include microelectronics, call centers, and Indian casinos.[34]
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Population[edit]
The United States Census Bureau estimates that the population of New Mexico was 2,085,109 on July 1, 2015, a 1.26% increase since the 2010 United States Census.[2]

Of the people residing in New Mexico, 51.4% were born in New Mexico, 37.9% were born in a different US state, 1.1% were born in Puerto Rico, U.S. Island areas, or born abroad to American parent(s), and 9.7% were foreign born.[35]

About 7.5% of New Mexico's population was reported as under 5 years of age, 25% under 18, and 13% were 65 or older.[36] Women make up around 51% of the population.[36]

As of 2000, 8% of the residents of the state were foreign-born.[36]

Among U.S. states, New Mexico has the highest percentage of Hispanic ancestry, at 47% (as of July 1, 2012), including descendants of Spanish colonists and recent immigrants from Latin America.

Cities, towns, and counties[edit]
See also: List of settlements in New Mexico and List of counties in New Mexico
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Largest cities or towns in New Mexico
Source:[37]
Rank Name County Pop.
Albuquerque
Albuquerque
Las Cruces
Las Cruces 1 Albuquerque Bernalillo 556,495 Rio Rancho
Rio Rancho
Santa Fe
Santa Fe
2 Las Cruces Dona Ana 101,324
3 Rio Rancho Sandoval / Bernalillo 91,956
4 Santa Fe Santa Fe 69,976
5 Roswell Chaves 48,611
6 Farmington San Juan 45,854
7 Clovis Curry 39,508
8 Hobbs Lea 36,041
9 Alamogordo Otero 31,500
10 Carlsbad Eddy 27,653
Race and ancestry[edit]
Race/Ethnicity in New Mexico (2010)[38]
White 68.4%
• Non-Hispanic white 40.5%
• White Hispanic 28.1%
American Indian 9.4%
Black/African American 2.1%
Asian 1.4%
Pacific Islander 0.1%
Other 15.0%
Two or more races 3.7%
Hispanic/Latino 46.3%
The U.S. Census Bureau estimated that 47.0% of the total 2012 population was Hispanic or Latino of any race, the highest of any state. The majority of Hispanics in New Mexico claim Spanish ancestry, especially those in the northern part of the state. These Hispanos of New Mexico are the descendants of Spanish colonists who arrived during the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries and they speak New Mexican Spanish and/or English at home. The state also has a large Native American population, second in percentage behind that of Alaska.[36][39] The 2012 racial composition of the population was estimated to be:

83.2% White American
10.2% American Indian and Alaska Native
2.4% Black or African American
1.6% Asian
0.2% Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander
2.4% Two or more races[36]
New Mexico Racial Breakdown of Population
[hide]Racial composition 1970[40] 1990[40] 2000[41] 2010[42]
White 90.1% 75.6% 66.7% 68.6%
Native 7.2% 8.9% 9.5% 9.4%
Black 1.9% 2.0% 1.9% 2.1%
Asian 0.2% 0.9% 1.1% 1.4%
Native Hawaiian and
other Pacific Islander – – 0.1% 0.1%
Other race 0.6% 12.6% 17.0% 15.0%
Two or more races – – 3.6% 3.7%
According to the United States Census Bureau, 1.5% of the population is multiracial/mixed-race, a population larger than both the Asian and NHPI population groups.[36] In 2008, New Mexico had the highest percentage (47%) of Hispanics (of any race) of any state,[36] with 83% of these native-born and 17% foreign-born.[43]

According to estimates from the United States Census Bureau's 2006–2008 American Community Survey 3-Year Estimate,[44] New Mexico's population was 1,962,226. The number of New Mexicans of different single races were: White, 1,375,334 (70.1%); Black, 43,931 (2.2%); American Indian or Alaskan Native, 182,136 (9.3%); Asian, 26,767 (1.4%), Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander, 854 (0.1%), and 273,778 (14.0%) of some other race. There were 59,415 (3.0%) of two or more races. There were 873,171 (44.5%) Hispanics or Latino (of any race).

According to the 2000 United States Census,[45]:6 the most commonly claimed ancestry groups in New Mexico were:

Mexican (16.3%)
American Indian (10.3%)
German (9.8%),
Spanish (9.3%) and
English (7.2%).
Languages[edit]
Languages Spoken in New Mexico
English only 64%
Spanish 28%
Navajo 4%
According to the 2000 U.S. Census, 28.76% of the population aged 5 and older speak Spanish at home, while 4.07% speak Navajo.[46] Speakers of New Mexican Spanish dialect are mainly descendants of Spanish colonists who arrived in New Mexico in the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries.[47] New Mexican Spanish is an archaic form of 17th century Castilian Spanish.[48]

Official language[edit]
The original state constitution of 1912 provided for a bilingual government with laws being published in both English and Spanish;[49] this requirement was renewed twice, in 1931 and 1943.[50] Nonetheless, the constitution does not declare any language as "official."[51] While Spanish was permitted in the legislature until 1935, all state officials are required to have a good knowledge of English. Cobarrubias and Fishman therefore argue that New Mexico cannot be considered a bilingual state as not all laws are published in both languages.[50] Others, such as Juan Perea, claim that the state was officially bilingual until 1953.[52] In either case, Hawaii is the only state that remains officially bilingual in the 21st century.[53]

With regard to the judiciary, witnesses have the right to testify in either of the two languages, and monolingual speakers of Spanish have the same right to be considered for jury-duty as do speakers of English.[51][54] In public education, the state has the constitutional obligation to provide for bilingual education and Spanish-speaking instructors in school districts where the majority of students are hispanophone.[51]

In 1995, the state adopted an official bilingual song, "New Mexico – Mi Lindo Nuevo México".[55]:75,81 In 1989, New Mexico became the first state to officially adopt the English Plus resolution,[53] and in 2008, the first to officially adopt a Navajo textbook for use in public schools.[56]


San Miguel Chapel in Santa Fe. Oldest church structure in the U.S., built in 1610.
Religions in New Mexico
Roman Catholic 42%
Protestant 28%
• Mainline 8%
• Evangelical 20%
• Other Protestant 2%
LDS (Mormon) 3%
Jewish 2%
Buddhist 2%
Other religion 3%
Unaffiliated 22%
Religion[edit]
According to Association of Religion Data Archives(ARDA), the largest denominations in 2010 were the Catholic Church with 684,941; the Southern Baptist Convention with 113,452; The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints with 67,637, and the United Methodist Church with 36,424 adherents.[57] According to a 2008 survey by the Pew Research Center, the most common self-reported religious affiliation of New Mexico residents are mentioned in reference[58]:100

Catholic Church hierarchy[edit]
Within the hierarchy of the Catholic Church, New Mexico belongs to the Ecclesiastical Province of Santa Fe. New Mexico has three dioceses, one of which is an archdiocese:[59] Archdiocese of Santa Fe, Diocese of Gallup, Diocese of Las Cruces.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:24 am to
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New Mexico has a lot of shite but plenty to like.

If you're an artist you can go live in Santa Fe. But nobody else relocates to New Mexico. You relocate to Dallas and then buy property in Ruidoso or Cloudcroft or Red River.


Gotcha.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Upvote m8
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:26 am to
Its just like mexico but newer
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