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NYT account of the night the 43 Mexican students went missing
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:26 pm to DavidTheGnome
I don't think this is "at our doorstep"
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:26 pm to DavidTheGnome
This is some bizarre stuff.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:28 pm to DavidTheGnome
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The 43 students were undergraduates at Escuela Normal Rural Raúl Isidro Burgos, a teachers college, in Ayotzinapa, with a history of activism.
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They were among about 100 students who headed out on the evening of Sept. 26, 2014, with a plan to steal some buses. This was a tradition that students at the school had done for many years: They would take the buses, use them to transport their peers to an event and then return them when they were done.
So they were thieves? /thread
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:28 pm to DavidTheGnome
Mexico is another world. Extremely fascinating, and extremely violent culture.
A beautiful, passionate people, but god damn dangerous.
Anybody who tells you we're all just one human race and everybody is the same has never been to Mexico. They are not the same.
A beautiful, passionate people, but god damn dangerous.
Anybody who tells you we're all just one human race and everybody is the same has never been to Mexico. They are not the same.
This post was edited on 4/25/16 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:29 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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This is some bizarre stuff.
My thoughts exactly.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:29 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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So they were thieves? /thread
Not entirely.
You must have missed the part when authorities opened fire on a completely innocent soccer team, and also civilian vehicles killing a 40 year old woman.
It's a bizarre story all around.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:30 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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New Orleans is another world. Extremely fascinating, and extremely violent culture. Bautiful, passionate people, but god damn dangerous.
FIFY
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:31 pm to 13SaintTiger
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New Orleans is another world. Extremely fascinating, and extremely violent culture. Bautiful, passionate people, but god damn dangerous.
some of the shite that goes down in Mexico makes NOLA seem like Pleasantville, USA
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:35 pm to DavidTheGnome
So the cartels are backed by the Mexican government. Nothing new.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:35 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Not entirely.
You must have missed the part when authorities opened fire on a completely innocent soccer team, and also civilian vehicles killing a 40 year old woman.
how does this mean anything with them stealing buses?
if they weren't out stealing buses they would be safe at home. right?
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:37 pm to DavidTheGnome
Go watch the movie, Sicario. Extremely accurate depiction of what kind of hell Mexico is.
There are literally scores and scores of dead bodies just on the other side of the Rio Grande. The violence and death will only continue to flood into the border cities across Texas and throughout the southwest states.
There are literally scores and scores of dead bodies just on the other side of the Rio Grande. The violence and death will only continue to flood into the border cities across Texas and throughout the southwest states.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:40 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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So they were thieves? /thread
Imagine some of the pranks LSU fratstars pull. Now imagine if a few dozen of them turned up dead afterward.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:43 pm to DavidTheGnome
We just need to invade..wipe them all out..update the plumbing slap a fresh coat of paint on it and flip Mexico to new owner and pay some bills off..
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:44 pm to upgrayedd
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I don't think this is "at our doorstep"
Try telling that to Texas!
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:45 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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So they were thieves? /thread
Not in the traditional sense of the word.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:45 pm to Phil A Sheo
We literally tried that before. Look up the Mexican-American War.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:46 pm to Nado Jenkins83
I imagine first hand context is needed to really understand this.
I had not appreciated the bus stealing antics before, but NYT certainly paints it as something more akin to a traditional activist "prank" than normal thievery. But the fact that the bus drivers have a protocol for "student hijacking" sure makes it sound like this is something locals may understand but seems really odd from the outside.
Regardless, it still seems a little weird that the article is essentially saying "oh my God the atrocities" right after it talks about how police were trying to road block against the buses and firing warning shots and the students required the drivers to keep going.
I can't imagine anything the students did could justify the disappearance of dozens of people, but that article does change my opinion a little.
I had not appreciated the bus stealing antics before, but NYT certainly paints it as something more akin to a traditional activist "prank" than normal thievery. But the fact that the bus drivers have a protocol for "student hijacking" sure makes it sound like this is something locals may understand but seems really odd from the outside.
Regardless, it still seems a little weird that the article is essentially saying "oh my God the atrocities" right after it talks about how police were trying to road block against the buses and firing warning shots and the students required the drivers to keep going.
I can't imagine anything the students did could justify the disappearance of dozens of people, but that article does change my opinion a little.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 4:46 pm to Phil A Sheo
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We just need to invade..wipe them all out..update the plumbing slap a fresh coat of paint on it and flip Mexico to new owner and pay some bills off..
That sounds disturbingly like our Iraq plan...
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