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re: Non U.S. citizens who live here and bitch about the country
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:10 pm to lsucoonass
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:10 pm to lsucoonass
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Tell him to go back to his shithole 3rd world country
You're referring to Germany? One of the most economically advanced countries in the world?
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:12 pm to Superior Pariah
I'm talking about in general.
In that case he can go back to Bavaria
In that case he can go back to Bavaria
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:15 pm to knight_ryder
Putin isn't that bad. He just isn't an nwo cronie
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:19 pm to Anfield Road
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Doesn't exempt you from taxes. In fact, unless he eventually becomes a permanent resident or citizen, he'll be contributing to social security without taking from it.
Not exactly. Germany, Mexico and other countries have this agreement:
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Since the late 1970’s, the U.S. has established international social security agreements that coordinate the U.S. Social Security program with the comparable programs of other countries.
These international social security agreements are called “totalization agreements” and have two main purposes:
Eliminate dual social security taxation that occurs when a worker from one country works in another country and is required to pay social security taxes to both countries on the same earnings. As a result of existing totalization agreements, U.S. workers and employers currently are saving about $800 million annually in foreign taxes they do not have to pay.
Help fill gaps in benefit protection for workers who have divided their careers between the U.S. and another country, but who have not worked long enough in one or both countries to qualify for social security benefits. With totalization, workers are allowed to combine work credits from both countries to become eligible for benefits. The benefit amount paid is proportional to the amount of credits earned in the paying country.
It then goes on to talk about the costs to the "Social Security Trust Fund" (which doesn't really exist other than IOUs, it's been raided since the 1980s), which verifies that work taxed in the U.S. has those SS taxes shipped overseas (the SS website wasn't very transparent about that, though).
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This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:24 pm to 1BamaRTR
quote:I agree with this.
But I think most of the people that move here are appreciative and and as stated above they are usually productive members of society.
And i think a lot of people, when hearing a foreigner complaining or criticizing our government or way of doing things, take it much differently than they would from a citizen. I don't think that's fair if they're working and living here. They more than likely do the same thing about their native country.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:24 pm to lsuwontonwrap
I just spent living with n Spain, while we have a great Country we are so fricked Up compared to the Spanish it is Sad.
I would never give up my Citizenship, but I plan on spending 6 months living with n Europe. If you think our illegal system is disgusting read what it takes for someone to live in Spain
I would never give up my Citizenship, but I plan on spending 6 months living with n Europe. If you think our illegal system is disgusting read what it takes for someone to live in Spain
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:26 pm to lsuwontonwrap
Tell your friend to go frick himself.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:28 pm to lsuwontonwrap
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Germany
Oh the irony
I had a few friends in college that were from Germany who loved to bitch about things in the US. They were all cool until you started talking about politics with them. Whenever they'd bring up how racist the US was, I'd bring up the Nazis and Holocaust. I've never seen someone get so mad and defensive so fast after bringing that subject up to them
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:28 pm to lsucoonass
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Putin isn't that bad. He just isn't an nwo cronie
yea, he only has dissenters and political opponents thrown in prison and killed, but he acts like badass hang gliding and playing hockey so it's all good.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:34 pm to lsuwontonwrap
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He's never said hates but he bitches about the healthcare system
For a person who has hands on experience on both US and universal healthcare system, he has every right to. You have no idea how terrible and insanely overpriced it is in the US compared to other developed nations.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:38 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Nazis and Holocaust
Ok, and we had slavery and the Trail of Tears. What's your point?
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:40 pm to Superior Pariah
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Ok, and we had slavery and the Trail of Tears. What's your point?
That they have no room to talk shite about our past.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:41 pm to Phat Phil
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For a person who has hands on experience on both US and universal healthcare system, he has every right to. You have no idea how terrible and insanely overpriced it is in the US compared to other developed nations.
Germany made a decision to have super-high taxes to pay for this. It also helps that the United States is providing its national security.
Once the Muzzies overrun them, though, all that pie-in-the-sky shite in Europe will end, post hace. Ol' Hans will get mad as hell and not take it anymore.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:41 pm to lsuwontonwrap
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Why even live here if you hate it that much?
Because he can make more money here. And he lives in the U.S. and pays income tax on what he earns, so he has just as much a right to bitch as anyon else.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:44 pm to Mr Personality
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A German calling people racist? Lol.
To be fair, Jews aren't people.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:45 pm to Rickety Cricket
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so he has just as much a right to bitch as anyon else.
Not really if he's not an actual citizen.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:47 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Why not?
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:48 pm to Superior Pariah
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You're referring to Germany? One of the most economically advanced countries in the world?
The one he left to make more money and live better here? Yes, that shithole country. Later mf'er!!!!
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:48 pm to texashorn
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Germany made a decision to have super-high taxes to pay for this.
Shake my head. Ignorant statement like this is exactly what I'm talking about. 99% of the population has zero clue and anything universal healthcare system is "ZOMG Socialism!!!!!."
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:49 pm to SmackoverHawg
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You're referring to Germany? One of the most economically advanced countries in the world?
The one he left to make more money and live better here? Yes, that shithole countr
You've never been. It's a great country. In fact, I'm willing to bet you've never left the country. You probably had your honeymoon at Disney World.
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