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re: Nola DA Leon Cannizzaro is a crooked piece of shite

Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:16 pm to
i once heard him on Eric Asher show after the Cali shootings, and he didnt even know the gun laws of Louisiana. i felt embarrassed for him
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:21 pm to
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Sell off the actual felony prisoners to other prisons and keep the misdemeanor guys and people waiting for trial. You've also got to take a look at your drug policies and conditions for release (getting a job or doing community service). Problem solved



You know how many misdemeanors are booked into the jail right now? Probably 125 total. Most of them will be released by the next court appearance, and the vast majority have mental issues. Do you think it's more important for felony or misdemeanor offenses to be housed in the local jail where they can meet with their attorneys? What do you think the 8 hour round trip is doing to case processing time? The ability for attorneys to relay deals?

Your statement about "drug policies" and conditions for release in a jurisdiction which hands out more RoRs than anywhere else in the state shows that you don't know what happens here. The statement about how many arrests is too much for a DA makes me wonder if you even know what a district attorney does.
This post was edited on 3/18/16 at 6:22 pm
Posted by Maverick01
Member since Sep 2015
581 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:23 pm to
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The DA does not hold the purse strings, the Mayor and City Counsel do. How is Cannizzarro profiting from more inmates?


You can say whatever the hell you want to say, but I suggest you do your research on this guy. His office has deliberately held relevant information from the defense in multiple cases to get a guilty verdict. He's a fricking corrupt criminal in a suit.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:24 pm to
tLSU dropping facts and dispelling myths!
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:25 pm to
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His office has deliberately held relevant information from the defense in multiple cases to get a guilty verdict.


THis type of misconduct goes on daily across the country and is only rarely punished, usually in Nifong type of situations where it's beyond egregious to the point it can't be ignored.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:26 pm to
"I failed at that absurd argument, let me try another one!"
Posted by Jimbeaux
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Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:27 pm to
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n say whatever the hell you want to say, but I suggest you do your research on this guy. His office has deliberately held relevant information from the defense in multiple cases to get a guilty verdict. He's a fricking corrupt criminal in a su


That may be true, but that charge is levied against every prosecutor who ever served. It's standard defense attorney pablum.

But, with all due respect, it has no moment for this discussion about jail size.
Posted by Maverick01
Member since Sep 2015
581 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:29 pm to
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I probably know more than anyone on this board about why incarceration rates were what they were, are what they are, and where they're going. If you knew the actual reason that incarceration rates declined, you'd know that once the NOPD is adequately staffed and can proactively patrol instead of running code all night, the arrest rate will increase tremendously. Then, we'll have 1,000 out of parish and people wondering what the hell happened. 



Horsehit! Those incarceration rates fell due to community activism and the proposed initiative that went into action to discontinue arresting individuals for nonviolent charges like marijuana possession, and issue a summons instead.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:32 pm to
Are you for real?
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8623 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:34 pm to
Wrong. That was a bullshite myth that was actually debunked in Court in both the consent decree cases. The jail was never filled with Marijuana smokers before. Now, it definitely isn't.

The ordinance passed by the city council yesterday affects zero people in the jail. However, Susan Guidry sure made you and other "activists" feel like you did something, right?
Posted by Bigpoppat
Drinking a Manhattan
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:42 pm to
Please link those cases for me
Posted by Maverick01
Member since Sep 2015
581 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:43 pm to
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This is a distortion and lie. 

Please explain to me how the people who determine who goes to jail are profiting from jailing those people. Judges? the DA? Cops? None of those receive one extra dime. 

Local Sheriff's - okay, depending on the financial arrangements. But in Orleans Parish, the Sheriff has little to no power over who is sent to jail or how long they are kept there.


Criminal courts collect fees from commercial bonds and the sheriff's office gets a per diem for every inmate housed, so tell me again how it doesn't favor judges or the sheriff's staff to have a higher incarceration rate you daft frick? In addition, do you honestly believe having more individuals in jail doesn't help the DA's political platform? Ignorance truly is bliss for some people.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8623 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:44 pm to
The sheriff's office has not received a per diem in years. If the individual is in jail, no one is receiving money from bail because he hasn't posted it. You are way out of your league.
This post was edited on 3/18/16 at 6:46 pm
Posted by Maverick01
Member since Sep 2015
581 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:50 pm to
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The ordinance passed by the city council yesterday affects zero people in the jail. However, Susan Guidry sure made you and other "activists" feel like you did something, right?




Are you going to fabricate bullshite now? Did I ever say the ordinance affected anyone presently in jail? It lowered the amount of individuals being arrested and booked into jail. You do understand the difference between jail and prison right?
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8623 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:51 pm to
I wanna say Michael Anderson and Jamaal Tucker were the Brady cases under Leon. I am not intimately familiar with either, but don't think I'd describe them as "deliberate" and both defendants pled guilty after.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:51 pm to
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Nola DA


I didn't need any more than this to know that.
Posted by Bigpoppat
Drinking a Manhattan
Member since Oct 2008
9213 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:52 pm to
It's funny because you think NOPD was arresting massive amounts of people for simple possession of MJ. Those people got municipal summons
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76282 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:54 pm to
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Many people on this board believe that all jails are full of harmless potheads.


Parish jails across the state are full of harmless potheads. Most quickly bond out, but some sit for weeks or months. Don't think this is the case in Orleans. And I'm not talking about state prisons either.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8623 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:55 pm to
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Are you going to fabricate bullshite now? Did I ever say the ordinance affected anyone presently in jail? It lowered the amount of individuals being arrested and booked into jail. You do understand the difference between jail and prison right?



No, it doesn't. Give me the names of anyone arrested on a Marijuana third or fourth in the past two years. Hint: NOPD doesn't make those arrests, as MOTIONS doesn't have the capability to accurately show prior convictions. Those charges are never brought until the bill is filed after the DA has had a chance to run the III and get a cert pack. It's not a street charge in Orleans Parish and never has been.

In other words, it affects NOTHING in Orleans Parish.

Once again, you're out of your league, and now you're all over the map. I can tell you're a Susan Guidry fan. You two should draft more irrelevant ordinances....maybe one that stops NOPD from arresting people for treason or theft of crawfish.
This post was edited on 3/18/16 at 6:58 pm
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20114 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 6:55 pm to
Court fees are imposed at sentencing. Judges don't get more money by having more pretrial detainees. They don't determine how many cases they see, that is determined by arrest rates.

Now, judges have used jails as a way to squeeze people to pay fines and fees. That process continues, and is a situation that should be considered, but I don't think it has an easy answer. Nevertheless, those folks do not occupy very large numbers of bed space at any given time and doesn't significantly effect the discussion of jail size.

You still haven't shown me how judges profit from pretrial detention or from longer jail sentences.
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