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re: Nitrogen in tires?

Posted on 5/30/16 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 3:26 pm to
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Tempature does not affect nitrogen at 92% or higher. Which means tire pressure stats consistent no matter tire temp. In turn , helping prevent tire monitor lights always coming in and it helps with gas mileage


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Any stability in tire temperature from using only nitrogen is due to the absence of moisture that would be present in compressed air.
Posted by Ellssu
Spying North of the Border
Member since Dec 2006
2478 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 3:28 pm to
Some Einstein's in this thread. the difference in molecular size is miniscule at best.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Tempature does not affect nitrogen at 92% or higher. Which means tire pressure stats consistent no matter tire temp. In turn , helping prevent tire monitor lights always coming in and it helps with gas mileage




I've heard a lot of crap about the N2 tires before, but never heard someone claim that Nitrogen was immune to thermal effects in high enough concentrations.

No, sorry, Nitrogen is affected by temperature just like every other gas:



Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29453 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 4:39 pm to
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Tempature does not affect nitrogen

Posted by Insanerb25
Seattle
Member since Jun 2016
5 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:04 am to
yes but nitrogen is a dry gas, oxygen carries humidity which expands when heated...
and they aren't the same, i think its a 1.4kj difference which isn't much but pure oxygen is better then nitrogen with heat, but then you are still paying for someone to compress it properly (and im not talking about a simple air compressor) which costs more than nitrogen but leaks through the tire faster so your still at a loss.
Nitrogen is better, its really just a conversation about how much gain do you get for how much you have to pay.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 12:13 am
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78062 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:09 am to
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Musson patout in new iberia added 499 charge for nitro in tires.


That is just robbery.

It cost me $10/tire when I got it. And they top it off for nothing when I get my oil changed.
Posted by Tigerswillprevail
Member since Nov 2011
2866 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:16 am to
Dumbasses, go with your nitrogen filled tires.

Allow me to sell you some land south of cameron.

Wow, how fricking ignorant are you?
Posted by Insanerb25
Seattle
Member since Jun 2016
5 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:18 am to
Yeah, some businesses just take advantage of people. Wholesale on nitrogen is about $.17 per cubic foot. 4.5 cubic feet will be around 10-15 psi per tire. at 30 psi * 4 tires you need 36 cubic feet = $6.12 for all 4. Charging $10 for a full fill up from new tires or $2.99 to top off and your still making a profit.
Posted by Insanerb25
Seattle
Member since Jun 2016
5 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:20 am to
ignorance is lacking knowledge, i can provide you with some technical data sheets explaining the difference in air compressor oxygen vs nitrogen in tires if you would like. there has been some long winded studies on this if you understand GLS and OLS regressions... just in case you want to educated yourself and be less ignorant
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78062 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:29 am to
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Dumbasses, go with your nitrogen filled tires.


Apparently you didn't read my own experience posted earlier. I never worry about checking the pressure or needing to top off with an air compressor.

When I get my oil changed they top it off for me for nothing. The tires lose about a 1/2 lb of pressure each over about a 6 month time period.

On my previous car, when I replaced the tires I decided to try Nitrogen. No one suggested it to me there. I asked for it.

I have been happy with it, and when I got my new car I went back to the same place and had them put Nitrogen in right away.

Why do you care so much about what I choose to spend my money on? I definitely have seen tangible positive results. For ME it is worth the money. My time and my peace of mind are worth far more than that $40.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 12:32 am
Posted by Insanerb25
Seattle
Member since Jun 2016
5 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:32 am to
THANK YOU!
Not only did your experience show you there is a benefit but there is scientific proof.
Free air or free nitrogen... how is this is hard choice?
Should you spend $50 filling up no! but that has nothing to do with nitrogen, that's dirty businesses!
Posted by CharlieDay
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
422 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 2:04 am to
quote:

Fill the with helium, makes the car lighter and burns less fuel


Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
55024 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:42 am to
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I get the best results using a 78% nitrogen, 21 % oxygen mixture.

Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13316 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:30 am to
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79% N2?

ISWYDT.
Posted by pchwinner
Member since Jan 2008
495 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 5:57 am to
I don't think you are supposed to use nitrogen in your tires if the temperature is going to get over 100 degrees. It will then turn to liquid nitrogen and just slosh around in your tires.
Posted by Insanerb25
Seattle
Member since Jun 2016
5 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:00 pm to
um... nitrogen turns liquid at like -300 F... as it warms up it turns to gas
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:41 pm to
Placebo effect.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71365 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:46 pm to
Helium doesn't explode. It's inert.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4428 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

quote:
You just start losing the benefits of Nitrogen.

which would be what?



Less oxygen to support combustion when your brakes overheat.

(at least that's why high-performance aircraft use N2)
Posted by Charlie Arglist
Wichita, Kansas
Member since Nov 2012
5550 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:51 pm to
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Fill the with helium, makes the car lighter and burns less fuel..


and makes the car go Woooooooo

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