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Need to hear your positive or not experience with a good auto exhaust shop in BR

Posted on 11/8/15 at 1:28 pm
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14982 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 1:28 pm
Rebuilt engine and installed new catalytic converters in a car and now the exhaust makes some vibrating noise while decelerating under 25 mph. I think the old exhaust system just isn't "tuned" to the new engine anymore.

Engine runs great. The exhaust is installed properly - everything is tight.

I would like someone who has experience with something like this - not someone who's only option is to change everything out.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 1:29 pm to
Buy a new car, that's what the OT does
Posted by MagnumTA
Walker
Member since Nov 2012
207 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:16 pm to
Go see Marc at Walker Muffler in Walker
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48853 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:26 pm to
What kind of vehicle?
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29547 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:45 pm to
Let us know how the whistle tips turn out

Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48853 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 3:18 pm to
Bubb Rub

Always a favorite.
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 3:29 pm to
Does the vehicle engine brake, aka downshift under deacceleration, or perhaps the engine is holding gear. What are he RPMS like when the vibration sound occurs. It kinda just sounds like drone man. Also would be good to know what kind of vehicle and engine.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14982 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 4:15 pm to
'07 300C 5.7L HEMI.
I decided to keep it when it came time to buy a new one. I'm well aware of the overwhelming demographic that drives these things. I like it a lot and decided that having done this all my life I wouldn't let a car go that I really liked and I really like this car. I don't care what anyone else thinks. It had 108,000 gentle miles on it when it went down.

A local mechanic changed the oil and put the wrong oil in it and the MDS malfunctioned and caused a piston to fail. Phenomenally the damage was minimal.

An employee who is a mechanic that works with me asked to take a look at it and had the engine out of the car before I knew it. He'd already re-built two diesel engines recently so we went ahead and took it down to the short block and had the bad cylinder re-sleeved and all of them honed. Got all new pistons, rings, lifters, heads, catalytic converters etc and put it back together and it runs great.

The only problem is what appears to be a resonance that sets up when decelerating from around 23 mph. It goes away if you downshift I think because it changes the harmonics of the exhaust due to the change in RPM's.

I've tried some things myself but I nor anyone I know has much experience with exhaust systems other than taking them off and putting them on.

I'm hoping someone with years of experience can tell me what to do other than replace the converters which is costly. I'd glady replace the pipes and mufflers if that would cure it but I don't want to do that unless I'm fairly convinced that will cure the issue.

I want to hear about someone who you know of that you think I can trust. I can give you the name of a good transmission shop and I hope someone can do likewise with a good exhaust shop or mechanic.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27421 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:17 pm to
Bring it to autotech in gonzales. Tell them its vibrating.

40$ later it will be fixed.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:19 pm to
Just cut the cats off and go straight pipes
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14982 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:54 pm to
it would be nice if that's all it took.

when we first put it back together we didn't get them on tight enough and they worked loose.

I'm always amazed at actually how loud an un-muffled engine is. Exhaust systems are pretty interesting. There's really a lot going on there. They have to be tuned to the particular engine to work properly.
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 5:55 pm
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29547 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:56 pm to


Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14982 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:57 pm to
Thanks for the recommendation. I'm calling them in the morning.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69106 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

Exhaust systems are pretty interesting. There's really a lot going on there. They have to be tuned to the particular engine to work properly.




Their job is only really to let the engine breathe. Mufflers restrictions this but are needed to cut down on noise, Cats restrict this further and are needed for emissions. Rattling is usually a loose weld or a bad hanger.

Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14982 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

Rattling is usually a loose weld or a bad hanger

This is correct. I assure you there is nothing loose and rattling. It's not a rattle.

It sounds and feels like reverberation caused by a resonance that occurs at a particular rpm when decelerating under 23 mph.

The fact that it instantly goes away when you downshift while it is occurring and the fact that everything is tight from stem to stern on the exhaust system doesn't point to any kind of rattle from something being loose.
Posted by seeinspots
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
1101 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

exhaust makes some vibrating noise while decelerating under 25 mph


You sure it's the exhaust? I'm no expert but could the harmonics be coming from the engine itself?
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14982 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 7:44 pm to
It is actually coming from the engine itself. I believe it's the exhaust when it hits a certain frequency and volume at just the right conditions.

I believe it's the exhaust also because I have been able to change it by putting clamps on the exhaust pipe at various locations and it changed the frequency of the resonance.

Since I was able to affect it doing that I believe it is coming from the pipes and not from the engine block or anything in that area.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43143 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 7:48 pm to
Exhaust manifold gasket.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43143 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 7:55 pm to
Have you tried loosening the clamps and looking for signs of rubbing? Sometimes everything feels good and snug but the exhaust is rubbing on the facia or other areas like the heat shield.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14982 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 8:10 pm to
What about the Exhaust manifold gaskets are you thinking?
I've inspected every inch of the exhaust and it is surprisingly tight and doesn't rub on anything.

There is a rather long length of straight pipe on each side from the front to the rear where the mufflers are that I suspect are the culprits because that would be an area that would be conducive to a harmonic resonance and that just feels like where it's coming from.
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