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re: Navy tests new electromagnetic railgun that can fire projectiles from ships at 4,500mph

Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:54 am to
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:54 am to
Because the projectile is traveling so fast that the friction experienced by the material on its surface, and on the surfaces that it is in contact with, causes them to burn. It also heats the air around the projectile so much that the air emits light.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:55 am to
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projectiles that cost around $800,000 apiece.

And worth every penny
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:55 am to
So a little more than twice the speed of a 5.7 round LOL

They should just arm all the sailors with 5.7s and let them shoot the other boats with their pistols *pew* *pew* LOL
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:58 am to
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projectiles that cost around $800,000 apiece


What is this projectile made of? I hope they zero in on the target fairly quickly when they sight it in.




I don't think it is saying the rail gun projectiles cost $800,000 each. I think it is saying that it could replace the Zumwalts gun system, which happens to have projectiles that cost $800,000 each.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:58 am to
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imagine the projectile would have to be of a strong enough material to maintain structural integrity going that fast and absorbing that much initial force.


Tungsten, titanium probably.
Posted by fredswaves
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:59 am to
I think the railgun would replace the system currently being used... and that one has the $800K projectile.

Still does seem pretty expensive but I wonder how much one of them there Tomahawk Missiles cost per trigger pull.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:01 am to
Why does the Navy willingly describe how this weapon works?

Doesn't that give other countries an idea of how to build one for themselves?

Why can't the Navy just say "we got a cool gun" and leave it at that?
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 9:02 am
Posted by fredswaves
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:03 am to
The idea of a rail gun has been around for years and years... The impressive part is having a mobile power plant with enough juice to shoot one.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:05 am to
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Doesn't that give other countries an idea of how to build one for themselves?


This system has been in development for years.

If someone else wants to try and get all the technical specifics on their own they have a long road of R&D ahead of them.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:06 am to
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I think the railgun would replace the system currently being used... and that one has the $800K projectile.


Correct. Current system on the Zumwalt uses LRLAP's which cost $800k per round. That cost is why it's being replaced.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 9:08 am
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:06 am to
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Why does the Navy willingly describe how this weapon works?


How a rail gun works is not a secret. For example, this YouTube video, among many others, explains how to make one.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:06 am to
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They haven't shown what it does to a target at distance. Until then I'm not impressed.



Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37615 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:07 am to
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designed around the projectiles that cost around $800,000 apiece.


I thought the Navy bailed on this program or scaled it back significantly because of the cost....$800K apiece for a shell.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65881 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:08 am to
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Correct. Current system uses LRLAP's which cost $800k per round. That cost is why it's being replaced.



yep

i suck at reading

The recently commissioned USS Zumwalt has been experiencing difficulties with its 155mm Advanced Gun Systems, designed around the projectiles that cost around $800,000 apiece.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1474 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:09 am to
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Tungsten


My guess, as well. Railguns would be the much more likely weapon of choice in space, rather than lasers, if we ever did get to the point of having conflict in those environments.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:10 am to
There's fire and smoke because anything moving that fast will literally set the air on fire.
Posted by fredswaves
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2014
58 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:21 am to
Only problem with railguns in space would be Newton’s Third Law of Motion… equal but opposite reaction. The railgun would have to be attached to a pretty massive ship to ensure when it is fired it didn’t send the ship spiraling out of control. Lasers don’t have that problem. But then again, we aren’t there yet. Let’s find a way to get to space cheaply before we decide to fight up there.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27549 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:22 am to
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Railguns would be the much more likely weapon of choice in space


This. Think of the MAC guns in Halo. Capital ships have a rail gun that can launch 600 ton to 3000 ton tungsten projectiles at targets at extreme velocities.

Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48328 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:30 am to
Send it back to the developer and tell them that we need a Giant Silencer designed and fitted on the top of the gun barrel.

Then watch the hilarity ensue.

Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78036 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:39 am to
I could mop the floor with any of you figs with a no scope quake 1 railgun
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 9:40 am
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