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re: My wife and I had an abortion. AMA
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:34 pm to BigTimer085
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:34 pm to BigTimer085
Sucks you gave up on your kid. She could have made it.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 1:35 pm
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:36 pm to BigTimer085
So ….you murdered your baby.
What I got out of your story is that though slim odds, there were medical options to possibly saving your child’s life. But out of convenience and not wanting to spend the money you chose to murder her instead.
What if your current child were to develop some form of childhood brain tumor and the doctors said without medical intervention she will be dead in 6 months. Even with medical intervention of a brain surgery she to remove tumor she will likely have severe permanent brain damage and will likely need help feeding herself, dressing etc and never have a brain more developed than a 3 year old.
I guess you would just say frick it….let her die. Or better yet why wait the 6 months for her to die naturally, let’s kill her now.
The 2 scenarios are exactly the same thing…:so as I said at first.
You murdered your child.
What I got out of your story is that though slim odds, there were medical options to possibly saving your child’s life. But out of convenience and not wanting to spend the money you chose to murder her instead.
What if your current child were to develop some form of childhood brain tumor and the doctors said without medical intervention she will be dead in 6 months. Even with medical intervention of a brain surgery she to remove tumor she will likely have severe permanent brain damage and will likely need help feeding herself, dressing etc and never have a brain more developed than a 3 year old.
I guess you would just say frick it….let her die. Or better yet why wait the 6 months for her to die naturally, let’s kill her now.
The 2 scenarios are exactly the same thing…:so as I said at first.
You murdered your child.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:36 pm to BigTimer085
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Our outlook was horrible. The severity of the issues gave us about a 10% chance she would survive the first week. 100% chance she would require multiple open heart surgeries in the first year, and 100% chance she would need a heart replacement withing the first 10 years if she survived the first year which they gave us a "not good" answer when asking her chances of surviving the first year.
All things considered, we decided to terminate the pregnancy at 22 weeks.
You gave up a week, a year, and possibly much much longer time to be with your child by aborting her to avoid cost of heart surgeries and pain based on a possibility of losing her. This is similar to other abortions as pregnancy was no longer wanted. How many other independent opinions did you seek?
Your ending wanted pregnancies website should be ending originally wanted pregnancies that became unwanted when you found out it might get a little hard. That again is just another form of birth control.
Multiple stories all the time about some babies beating those odds that you & the ones your website blame abortions on along with you using your 3 year old as excuse. People using abortion for situations that aren’t going to be normal or result in the kids they imagined reminds me a little of Iceland pushing that aborting fetuses likely to have Downs Syndrome was a cure for Downs Syndrome.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 12:56 am
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:36 pm to TBoy
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That only applies to what was considered a person at the time of the drafting. Unborn had no personhood.
And we know now, scientifically, that life begins before birth. The right applies to “life” not to a certain group that was considered alive at the time of its drafting.
Again, your argument is preposterous from a legal stand point and ignorant from a scientific standpoint.
The 5th amendment also grants to you a right to property subject to due process. In 1789, motor vehicles weren’t a thing. Yet, today in 2022 your property rights are applicable to your vehicle. Why? Because the right concerns “property” not “property as it was understood in 1789.”
The right concerns “life” not “life as it was understood in 1789.”
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:38 pm to BigTimer085
As should be your wife’s right
No fetus is viable without a woman carrying it, and to claim an unborn fetus’s rights supersede the breathing, living woman that is necessary to carry the fetus to birth for it to exist at all is some backwards arse shite and that is why much of the rest of the developed world is largely shaking their heads at this country’s backsliding.
Bunch of people(majority men) claiming they care about individual liberty and freedom that want to use the state to control what woman can do with their own bodies and biological processes.
No fetus is viable without a woman carrying it, and to claim an unborn fetus’s rights supersede the breathing, living woman that is necessary to carry the fetus to birth for it to exist at all is some backwards arse shite and that is why much of the rest of the developed world is largely shaking their heads at this country’s backsliding.
Bunch of people(majority men) claiming they care about individual liberty and freedom that want to use the state to control what woman can do with their own bodies and biological processes.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:41 pm to BigTimer085
sorry for your loss, would have done the same
repeal needed to happen, but need to have exceptions for things like this, rape, incest etc
repeal needed to happen, but need to have exceptions for things like this, rape, incest etc
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:41 pm to Antonio Moss
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The right applies to “life” not to a certain group that was considered alive at the time of its drafting.
According to this decision and this court, constitutional rights are fixed at the time the text was granted. If that is the case with the right is a full grown woman and her right to decide whether to have a child, it applies to the unborn and their so called “rights.”
You want it both ways to support your very modern agenda.
Personally, I think the “textualist” view is and always has been bullshite. The constitution and the identification of fundamental rights is not locked in time and text to the constitution.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:42 pm to Bronc
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No fetus is viable without a woman carrying it, and to claim an unborn fetus’s rights supersede the breathing, living woman that is necessary to carry the fetus to birth for it to exist at all is some backwards arse shite and that is why much of the rest of the developed world is largely shaking their heads at this country’s backsliding.
The rest of the developed world has way more restrictive abortion laws than the US.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:42 pm to TBoy
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Personally, I think the “textualist” view is and always has been bullshite. The constitution and the identification of fundamental rights is not locked in time and text to the constitution.
Go be on the Supreme Court then
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:43 pm to Bronc
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No fetus is viable without a woman carrying it
A baby is not viable unless someone takes care if it - so can we kill those, too?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:45 pm to Bronc
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As should be your wife’s right
Show your work
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:46 pm to TBoy
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According to this decision and this court, constitutional rights are fixed at the time the text was granted
It did nothing of the sort.
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Personally, I think the “textualist” view is and always has been bullshite. The constitution and the identification of fundamental rights is not locked in time and text to the constitution.
Ok, but you’ve shown that you really don’t know or understand much about the Constitution, it’s drafting, principles, or targets, so your opinion has very little value.
I could walk into NASA tomorrow and start expounding on the chemical composition of rockets but I would expect to be laughed at since i wouldn’t have the first clue what I was talking about.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:47 pm to BigTimer085
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AMA
How much money do you make, before taxes?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:48 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:This isn’t the same regardless of how often people try to make it
A baby is not viable unless someone takes care if it - so can we kill those, too?
A fetus literally has a host keeping it alive during its entire state of being
A a baby is alive all on its on. It simply needs to be taken care of in order to remain alive
You can be pro-life, but trying to make the above situations the same is silly
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:48 pm to Antonio Moss
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The rest of the developed world has way more restrictive abortion laws than the US.
Nope
Many have gestational limits, but America is one of the few to allow outright bans with almost no exceptions now.
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:49 pm to GRTiger
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How much money do you make, before taxes
enough to live comfortably. not enough to easily afford current gas prices.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:50 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:You realize about half of the states in the US are about to completely ban abortion under all circumstances right? Many had laws in place that are in effect now, completely banning abortion, so what you said is just complete bullshite.
The rest of the developed world has way more restrictive abortion laws than the US
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:51 pm to BigTimer085
If your wife's left boob were to fall on a food scale that was set to measure in grams, what would the scale read?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:51 pm to BigTimer085
We are not the judge or the jury. People who do so are the ones that need to look in the mirror. We would have done the same thing… not fair to the baby that it would never have a real chance… and no way we could have afforded the medical bills that would ensue
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:52 pm to GRTiger
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If your wife's left boob were to fall on a food scale that was set to measure in grams, what would the scale read?
I don't know exactly. less than the right one
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