- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Military people, why are we still deploying national guard units to Afghanistan?
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:29 am to GetCocky11
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:29 am to GetCocky11
thanks trump.
0
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:30 am to GetCocky11
quote:
I just read about a local National Guard unit that is being deployed to Afghanistan.
With such a low total troop commitment over there right now, why isn't the active Army handling this 100%?
Seems like a waste.
Sometimes it's simply a matter of occupational specialties. If, for example, there is a need for combat engineers over there and all regular Army combat engineers are deployed elsewhere or coming off of rotation and there is a national guard unit available, the national guard unit will be called up. That happens a lot ever since the National Guard command came under the authority of the Army, instead of the old days when National Guard was only deployed based on needing more soldiers, now it is full integration.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:40 am to GetCocky11
quote:
Isn't the National Guard basically a state militia full of guys with full-time careers outside the military?
The national guard has both an active and a reserve component.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:44 am to tigers12
quote:
FWIW the 256th is arguably one of the best infantry brigades in the country.
C'mon man, they are good for a GUARD brigade but its unfair to compare them to a brigade like the 173rd, any brigade from the 101, 82nd, 1ID, 1CAV etc.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:56 am to Lakeboy7
quote:
C'mon man, they are good for a GUARD brigade but its unfair to compare them to a brigade like the 173rd, any brigade from the 101, 82nd, 1ID, 1CAV etc.
Obviously. That's what I meant - Guard wise. Just pointing out that Louisiana's own Tiger Brigade is pretty well respected with the active guys they were attached to while deployed. They're not a bunch of scrubs.
This post was edited on 8/24/17 at 11:00 am
Posted on 8/24/17 at 11:08 am to crimsonsaint
quote:
I'm sure that's never happened with regular army soldiers amirite? I doubt regular navy guys would wreck any destroyers either.
Not saying they didn't, but the Georgia Army National Guard was a complete shite show when I was there. I won't go through every experience I had with them, but they slowed down so much progress when it came to training the Afghan Army and Police that it was ridiculous. Add in their utter incompetence when it came to convoys, and it made it worse. Their replacements weren't much better (I believe it was the Maryland National Guard where I was).
There were a handful of good soldiers with them, but their leadership was horrendous. Now, my experience with the Navy Reservists and the active Army units were much different. By and large they had their shite together. Sure there were a few idiots, but it was the complete opposite of the National Guard guys that were there.
This post was edited on 8/24/17 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 8/24/17 at 11:10 am to magildachunks
quote:
Better question: why are we being asked to donate toiletries? Shouldn't the military provide those?
They've spent too much of their budget on transgender acceptance training
Posted on 8/24/17 at 11:56 am to lsucoonass
Because that is what they sign up for. No excuse not to deploy.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 12:50 pm to Rhino5
quote:
We built the largest embassy is the world in Baghdad capable of housing 5,500 troops, 104 acres.
And military aren't even allowed to go there without a badge and special permission. We have to stay in the dump across the street.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 12:56 pm to AFtigerFan
quote:
AFtigerFan
So would it be fair to say all of the U.S. Army (RA) sucks at leadership because I had one horrible AD Officer?
Because apparently you're willing to lump all of the ARNG into one category because you had some dumbasses running missions.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 1:08 pm to CajunSoldier225
quote:
CajunSoldier225
Stop being obtuse. It was a shite show across the entire RC East and RC Central. And please point to where I said the entire Army National Guard sucks. I did say the Georgia National Guard folks I dealt with (across the entire 2 regions) were horrendous. Same goes for the replacements I dealt with in the same area. This was also a widely held opinion.
Stop getting your panties in a wad and stop going out of your way to be offended. But if you want to say the entire Army sucks at leadership, be my guest. Not my experience though. And I won't be offended.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 1:10 pm to GetCocky11
quote:
With such a low total troop commitment over there right now, why isn't the active Army handling this 100%?
Because that's not the only place the active army has troop commitments. And its shrunk by about 100k during the Obama admin. The drawdown only stopped a few months ago.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 1:37 pm to PetroBabich
The pentagon should have a webcam set up to follow all the money they set fire to everyday.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 1:49 pm to GetCocky11
quote:
With such a low total troop commitment over there right now, why isn't the active Army handling this 100%?
Because the regular army continues to be stretched very thin. We have commitments in dozens, if not over 100 countries, by treaty, contingency operations.
Plus, they just got into the habit of doing it and haven't stopped. Finally, some truthtelling time - those National Guard commanders have to get combat time to look good for promotion boards.
This post was edited on 8/24/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 8/24/17 at 2:11 pm to GetCocky11
Concept started after Vietnam when we went to an all volunteer force and away from the draft. Bottomline is when hometown units are deployed you get hometown support. When you force people to enter service against their will you get no support from the citizens and low morale amongst the soldiers.
After Desert Storm, the Army was cut from 22 Divisions to 11 Divisions. At that point the Army planned on increasing its reliance on the National Guard. In order assist with this transition it developed programs for active duty Junior Military Officers to switch to NG units and double their commitments.
After Desert Storm, the Army was cut from 22 Divisions to 11 Divisions. At that point the Army planned on increasing its reliance on the National Guard. In order assist with this transition it developed programs for active duty Junior Military Officers to switch to NG units and double their commitments.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 2:14 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
Sometimes it's simply a matter of occupational specialties.
This is why you're seeing the Guard and Reserve Cyber forces taking more and more of the mission from the AD teams.
Most of us are cybersecurity analysts and engineers in our full time jobs. We are much, much better trained than the AD teams (outside of the NSA TAO folks and a few others) because we are hands on every single day...without any of mandatory training bullshite and other military stuff that eats up stick time.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 2:17 pm to GetCocky11
The war machine keeps a lot of people rich.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 2:20 pm to tigers12
quote:
Just pointing out that Louisiana's own Tiger Brigade is pretty well respected with the active guys they were attached to while deployed. They're not a bunch of scrubs.
They earned their stripes in Baghdad in 04-05, 19 killed I think and 50 or 60 wounded. Good unit.
Page 3 of 3
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News