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re: Migrants beat unconcious and gang rape 28 year old nurse in Germany
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:12 am to Salmon
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:12 am to Salmon
Wow, couldn't we get some kind of disclaimer next to him. Like his team logo could be a pile of bullshite or something?
This kind of stuff can sway opinions, and isn't it kinda dangerous to have opinions swayed by made up bullshite?
This kind of stuff can sway opinions, and isn't it kinda dangerous to have opinions swayed by made up bullshite?
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:16 am to LucasP
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I honestly think we win this war by having a better culture. We show them how much better life can be through assimilation, don't coddle their stupid traditions (I mean I guess we can coddle the non stupid ones). Swiss life and culture is much better than anything their native countries can offer, once that choice is made clear and unapologetically, I think most will assimilate.
I suppose it's possible, but I think that the current direction of political Islam will prevent the majority of immigrants from assimilating into European society. Many from that region see this as an opportunity to conquer the west in the name of Allah. Countries like Germany and Italy will continue to ignore that fact and the pot will inevitably boil over. It's almost a guarantee.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:16 am to upgrayedd
The majority of German people are totally enraged about it. The government did not listen to their people. They did not want this. You have a good point, I cannot think of any reason why Germany would accept a major long-term societal upheaval other than silly guilt. Merkel will always be hated by the Germans and other Europeans.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 11:27 am
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:21 am to upgrayedd
It would help if European countries would foster assimilation.
Want refugee status in France? Ok, we'll split you up from almost everyone you know and surround you with native French folks and not provide you with enclave access to the food, language, news, etc. of your home country.
I'm sure we'll still encounter one off radicals doing that, but any support for refugees should be contingent on compliance with well thought out assimilation-minded plans.
But hey, frick that. Let's have them all congregate in depressed housing estates listening to Arabic radio, Muslim-oriented television, shopping at Muslim-owned stores and eating at Muslim restaurants. What could go wrong.
Want refugee status in France? Ok, we'll split you up from almost everyone you know and surround you with native French folks and not provide you with enclave access to the food, language, news, etc. of your home country.
I'm sure we'll still encounter one off radicals doing that, but any support for refugees should be contingent on compliance with well thought out assimilation-minded plans.
But hey, frick that. Let's have them all congregate in depressed housing estates listening to Arabic radio, Muslim-oriented television, shopping at Muslim-owned stores and eating at Muslim restaurants. What could go wrong.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:24 am to Pettifogger
It's ridiculous. They become their own governing provinces. Police won't even go into certain neighborhoods because they will tell you that they have no authority. LOL anything you do has to go through a fricking godfather of some sort.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:25 am to upgrayedd
It's so incredibly difficult to help overly ideological people understand what you just pointed out without being called a bigot.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:25 am to Pettifogger
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Want refugee status in France? Ok, we'll split you up from almost everyone you know and surround you with native French folks and not provide you with enclave access to the food, language, news, etc. of your home country.
Every jihadi on Earth would use that as propaganda to show what the "real motives of the west" are. It's quite literally a no-win situation. They need to create a buffer zone inside Syria and keep those people there. There's no good way to integrate them into European society.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:28 am to upgrayedd
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Every jihadi on Earth would use that as propaganda to show what the "real motives of the west" are. It's quite literally a no-win situation. They need to create a buffer zone inside Syria and keep those people there. There's no good way to integrate them into European society.
I think you're partially right but the UK and France have been importing Muslims for decades. While radicalism was fostered during that period, plenty of Muslims arrived during periods where salafi Islam just wasn't as prominent as it is now.
Enclaves are such a huge obstacle to assimilation that it should be the #1 avoidance target for any country when it comes to immigration (including the United States).
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:28 am to Pettifogger
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I think you're partially right but the UK and France have been importing Muslims for decades.
Yep.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:30 am to Pettifogger
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Enclaves are such a huge obstacle to assimilation that it should be the #1 avoidance target for any country when it comes to immigration (including the United States).
It's likely the ideal technique but the political and propaganda fallout that would ensue would likely result in a net loss.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:32 am to upgrayedd
IT'S CULTURAL ERASURE!
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:35 am to SabiDojo
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IT'S CULTURAL ERASURE!
ISIS is FAR better at propaganda than they are at fighting. That message would be a fricking gold mine for them.
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