re: Megachurch pastor buys wife a $200,000 Lamborghini

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Years ago I lived in a small town in north Louisiana. One of the biggest churches in town was the Pentecostal church. The minister and his wife both drove Lincoln Continental Town Cars. Their congregation members had no problem with that. I always found that absurd.

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And I bet the majority of the congregation were lower middle class.

There is a Pentecostal church in a small town next to me whose minister (I want to say she was a woman) was caught gambling with a lot of the church funds and it was the same ole story. She sinned, asked for forgiveness, and that was it.

Just like Jimmy Swaggart. Got caught with a hooker on Airline Dr... Got on TV, cried, beg for forgiveness and everything was fine (did he get caught just that one time or was it two different times?)

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Joel Osteen chimneys- 8

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he really believes in santa

Wow. 17 pages already. I'm impressed. Good job.

Martin Luther miscalculated the ultimate dynamic effect of schismatics. I don't judge him for it. He never claimed to be able to see the future.

In any event, we know that the Prosperity Theologists will support their theology with direct quotes from The Word of God. They will tell you that perspicuity makes it very clear that Prosperity Theology is Biblical. You may disagree with that. They will retort by telling you that you are wrong and that THEIR OWN interpretation is correct. How to resolve the impasse? The traditional way is to: don't join that guy's Church. Go to another Church or form your own Church following your own, or somebody else's, interpretations of what the Bible says.

And as for Jimmy Swaggart, the the Gambling Pastor's Sins? Well, all they have to do for forgiveness is: during private prayer, just ask God for forgiveness, right? The Bible doesn't say it has to be a public thing or something done in front of any Pastor. Poof! They are forgiven.

I think that's how all of this works, but, I invite corrections if you think I got something wrong.

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he really believes in santa

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covering his bases in case Santa's GPS screws up

Was talking about megachurch idea, not a car for you "Brother." You want one, go work for it. He did. Got book deals and TV show deals. Your excuse?

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The fact that so many people buy into what Megachurches are selling and continue to tithe to them is a serious indictment on our society.

There are a lot of stupid, easily manipulated people in this country. Pretty damn sad tbh.

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Nothing parts quicker than a fool and their money.

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It was almost as though we were insulting Jesus himself for pointing out how ridiculous it was that a pastor was able to afford all those luxury cars for his family based off gifts given to his "church."

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That's the hustle. Only satan would want to fight God's people. It's beat into every member of many of our churches.

Some issues that I have:

First, I hate these nondenominational churches that are structured like family businesses. Generally, denominational churches have certain requirements regarding their business structure. These requirements are very similar to IRS requirements for 501c3's. The business is a corporation, with the board being elected from the congregation, and that board selects officers for the church. These officers run the business side of the church, including selecting a pastor. Also, the denomination oversight generally requires a clause in the articles that all assets will go to another nonprofit styled organization if the church stops pursuing its purpose.

On the other hand, a lot of these nondenominational churches are structured IDENTICAL to family businesses. Whether structured as an llc or corporation, the pastor and his family constitute the entire board, officers, and/or members of the organization. Also, many do not include clauses in the articles that require the assets to flow to a similar organization after the church ceases to exist. When the family decides to shut down the church, they just walk away with the money.

Furthermore, with no oversight, these frickers treat the church like the Clinton Foundation. Friends and family have free access to use church property for their own personal uses, and most of the family members are on the payrolls.

If you go to one of these nondenominational churches, you should ask a few questions about its articles, bylaws, and/or operating agreements. I'd bet that 60%, or more, are organized EXACTLY like a family business, with no protections for the assets in the future. However, be warned; you will be doing satan's work by asking for accountability. Have fun looking for a new place of worship when they run your arse out.

Marvin Gorman would probably be a good example. The members of his church in NOLA likely took a fricking.

Dave Ramsey is correct.
The bible says 10% first fruits.

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Says someone who has never been to HPC before. Get out of here with that bullshite.

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The one people attend is always different from the others... Yet, they all result in someone getting rich as frick selling religion.