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re: Medical Rep Overview
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:31 pm to mikelbr
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:31 pm to mikelbr
If I'm entering a new hospital or surgery center for the first time, I request to meet with the OR director outside of the actual OR so I can have them specifically tell me what I can and cannot do.
Haven't had any problems in 9 years.
Haven't had any problems in 9 years.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 12:33 pm
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:35 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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And med device is much more lucrative than pharma on average.
I've been in pharmaceutical advertising for 15 years, and my girlfriend is a device rep for Medtronic, so I'm pretty familiar with the two.
Pharma rep is very often dropping off samples, 30 second to 2 minute "details" (if you're able to talk to a physician at all), and inviting them to events. You work good hours and can make good money.
On the medical device side, physicians want to talk to you and the engagements are often longer. You are also often in surgeries or procedures helping to run equipment or acting as a consultant. If you're attending surgeries, you will often have to be up and at em real early. You need to know your shite, and make good money.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:37 pm to Chucktown_Badger
All of this^
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:41 pm to okietiger
Yeah you make a few mistakes in the beginning but people get it.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:44 pm to okietiger
I thought the golden era for drug reps died a long time ago. There were so many hot girls getting hired fresh out of college with those jobs circa 2000. I'm guessing the rules changed on perks they could provide to docs?
Like chitown said, devices seems to be a different world where you can still succeed in this era, but actually need a brain in your head to thrive.
Like chitown said, devices seems to be a different world where you can still succeed in this era, but actually need a brain in your head to thrive.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:45 pm to okietiger
Ive only ever interacted with a few pharma sales reps in my field.
I do meet a lot of the med device reps. Most of them are nice, a few are overbearing in trying to get into the OR to talk to us.
At least in my region for my field, mostly male though there's a couple of females.
From a resident perspective, some of them are my age and I have hung out socially with them(non business) or sometimes quasi-socially for free beers/food on the company dime.
I do meet a lot of the med device reps. Most of them are nice, a few are overbearing in trying to get into the OR to talk to us.
At least in my region for my field, mostly male though there's a couple of females.
From a resident perspective, some of them are my age and I have hung out socially with them(non business) or sometimes quasi-socially for free beers/food on the company dime.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:46 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I'm guessing the rules changed on perks they could provide to docs?
Yes, phrma code changed...companies can't even give pens away anymore, let alone golf vacations. Still a lot of hot women in it, but it can get monotonous as you spend most of your day waiting to see docs. And delivering the same 10 second snippet of a message over and over. And samples, lots of samples.
As for her path, my girlfriend spent some time in sales out of college, then became a nurse, then caught on as a clinical specialist, then parlayed that into her device sales role. She actually majored in education in college, but later went back to nursing school (don't become a nurse).
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:50 pm to tigrbabe08
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How'd you end up getting into this Okie?
His tits were bigger than what his competition for the job was sporting.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:59 pm to okietiger
Have you seen his posting patterns. The only PHD he has is a Plaquemine High Diploma.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:02 pm to okietiger
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If I'm entering a new hospital or surgery center for the first time, I request to meet with the OR director outside of the actual OR so I can have them specifically tell me what I can and cannot do.
Haven't had any problems in 9 years.
No doubt good practice. Just saying if someone has it out for you(typically females) they can use just about any of these ticky tacky things to get you in trouble. I know two women in different states all together who've had this happen. One I could see it, the other was kinda surprising as she's quiet and friendly to everyone.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:18 pm to mikelbr
There will always be some RN or Administrators that will gun for you. However, if you make it a point to earn a reputation as always being nice and professional while building good relationships with the surgeons you can become bullet proof to a degree. Administrators usually gun for you because more and more their bonuses are tied to cost containment and they don't see the value of OR reps.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 3:11 pm to ABearsFanNMS
Lab Sales/ Diagnostics is also another route. There can be a lot of service as a lot of times you are fixing the nurses or docs mistakes but it can be a nice niche. Made great money a couple of years ago but now the government/insurance companies have cut the reimbursement to a large degree.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 3:14 pm to ksayetiger
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They just need to be hot women.
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Even my MD wife agrees with this.
Your wife scissors hot nurses. You lucky bastard.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 7:35 pm to okietiger
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If I'm entering a new hospital or surgery center for the first time, I request to meet with the OR director outside of the actual OR so I can have them specifically tell me what I can and cannot do.
Haven't had any problems in 9 years.
Been in the industry for a couple of decades and it's getting much tougher to get into a hospital. Back in the day I could walk in off the street, go right into the lockerroom and change into scrubs and walk right into the OR, CVOR or Cath Lab. Now with Vendormate, RepTrax, etc. you have to check in at a kiosk as you enter the hospital, state the reason for your visit/who you are seeing and in what dept and print off a badge and stick it to your scrubs. If caught up on the floors you can and will be banished from the hospital after an infraction or two.
Even so, it is a very lucrative career (with the right company & product line) and I love it. A lot of good $ to be made still but not as good as it used to be. I'm the Regional Manager and my reps make between $200k+ at plan- I know because I'm privvy to their comp plans. It;s been a very rewarding career for me with tons of perks (Rolexes, company cars, generous expense account, awards trips to awesome locations).
Medical devices is not even close to pharma, it's not even in the same fricking ballpark. My company would rarely if ever interview a pharma rep as the perception is they have bad work habits, not sure how warranted it is. It is true that we can not even give out so much as a notepad or pen as we are a particpant of AdvaMed, let alone take docs on fishing and golf trips like we used to be able to do. Doing so would result in immediate termination. The beauty is everyone is ostensibly playing on a level playing field.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:44 pm to AZBadgerFan
Some device reps are simply beggers and "package openers". They bring zero value to the procedure. Just agressively push their device with no regard to what the patient really needs. Pain in my arse and i really dont see how those companies keep people around like that. Unfortunately admin thinks all reps act like this and limit all their visits unless absolutely necessary. Tough business to be in rt now.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:00 pm to okietiger
I've been in medical device sales for 6 years. and no, most people I know in this industry aren't fired at a drop of a hat. Unless they sell products where reimbursement changes each year. But they expect that and are well compensated for that risk.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:14 pm to bushwacker
No they write down lot numbers too.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:21 pm to okietiger
As everyone has said medical device reps make a lot more money than pharma reps because we have way more specialized roles.
We have to be in surgery with the doctors and consult on our equipment when the shite hits the fan.
I wouldn't say we all have addictive personalities but most of the good reps are extremely obsessive.
We have to be in surgery with the doctors and consult on our equipment when the shite hits the fan.
I wouldn't say we all have addictive personalities but most of the good reps are extremely obsessive.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:27 pm to Finch
Sounds complicated, I'll just stick to selling urinal cakes.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:37 pm to okietiger
if i ever get out of industrial construction for whatever reason, med device sales is something I've had my eye on for a while. would love to be in the OR and shite
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