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Medical Insurance - Tax Penalty

Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:17 pm
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14792 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:17 pm
For those of you who don't want to pay

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The final language in the Act declared that the penalty “shall be paid upon notice and demand” which sounds really intimidating


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The language in the Act specifically rules out jail time, saying at Section 500A(g)(2)(A):

In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.


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At 500A(g)(2)(B)(i), the Treasury cannot “file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section.”

So, no liens.


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Then, clearly there will be levies or seizures on your wages and account, right?

Nope. Not that either. Under 500A(g)(2)(B)(ii), the Treasury cannot “levy on any such property with respect to such failure.”


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The IRS might seize any part or all of your refund in order to satisfy your obligation. Might. IRS hasn’t come right out and said that it absolutely will offset your refund if you owe a penalty for failure to pay. However, in the Final Regulations issued on this matter, IRS noted that “[n]othing in this section prohibits the Secretary from offsetting any liability for the shared responsibility payment against any overpayment due the taxpayer, in accordance with section 6402(a) and its corresponding regulations.”


Posted by Gleaux93
Member since Nov 2015
645 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:18 pm to
Why not just get insurance?
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13238 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:20 pm to
I would be scared to death to not have insurance for myself and my family. I guess that's the mind set of most productive citizens.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:23 pm to
How about giving us reasonable and affordable options again?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:24 pm to
just make the people pay for it that already were paying for it...the American way
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39195 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:25 pm to
Because its super expensive
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14792 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:27 pm to
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Why not just get insurance?


I'm 29, in excellent health and haven't been to a doctor since I was 23.

I get what you're going for, but I'm not buying it.
Posted by Phat Phil
Krispy Kreme
Member since May 2010
7373 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:29 pm to
frick you Republicans for unanimously blocking the public option. Why do you insist on being insurance company's bitch and pay the insanely high premium out the arse every month?
This post was edited on 4/4/16 at 4:30 pm
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14792 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:30 pm to
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frick you Republicans unanimously blocking the public option. Why do you insist on being insurance company's bitch and pay the insanely high premium out the arse?


Don't ask me.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129003 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:31 pm to
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I'm 29, in excellent health


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haven't been to a doctor since I was 23.


If you haven't been to a doctor in 6 years, how do you really know you are in excellent health?



Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4414 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:31 pm to
Even in your situation you should look into getting a policy to cover a catastrophic event. One serious car wreck and you're declaring bankruptcy
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:34 pm to
So it's like a redflex ticket?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202891 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:38 pm to
I was 55 and in excellent health and them BOOM. Within the last 14 months I have built up around 200,000 in medical bills.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14792 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:39 pm to
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If you haven't been to a doctor in 6 years, how do you really know you are in excellent health?


Fair question. I'll go out and get insurance immediately, to find out how healthy I am from someone who just met me.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28811 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:41 pm to
The IRS is going to take it from their or your tax refund. Don't think they wont because it is happening right now.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14792 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:41 pm to
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I was 55 and in excellent health and them BOOM. Within the last 14 months I have built up around 200,000 in medical bills.


Sucks, sorry man. Maybe once I get older, it would be a good idea, but for now, I see no real benefit other than finding out that I have some shitty terminal disease.
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
Lake Vegas
Member since Jun 2014
3248 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:43 pm to
Its simple, pay for health insurance up front or we will get you on the back-end, about time insured stop subsidizing the care of the uninsured
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14792 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:43 pm to
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The IRS is going to take it from their or your tax refund. Don't think they wont because it is happening right now.


Maybe yes, maybe no. We will find out.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:44 pm to
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about time insured stop subsidizing the care of the uninsured


you know youre still doing that, right?

youre just subsidizing more of them
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129003 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 4:45 pm to
That's why it's important to establish a primary doctor that you go to at least once a year for annual check ups. They will get to know you and your level of health. With my insurance through work we now get a $60/month discount if we get an annual exam with our PCP.


And at least on your first appointment with them, they can do a history with you and run some bloodwork to find out some basic stuff about your health(cholesterol levels, vit D levels, etc, etc).
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