re: Massive airliner’s skittish landing caught on horrifying video

OH my, please stop this thread. It's one pilot with heavy jet experience being told how dumb he is by a group of people who don't know a yaw damper from a rudder or any other part of the empennage.

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but I know a thing or two about landing big jets in adverse conditions

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I'll take the Boeing 777 for $500, Alex.

Here's to softer landings

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Cactus, I have no experience with the 380. Is there a yaw damper on it? He sure was kicking the hell out of it.

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Yes there is. But that has no effect on the pilot stomping the pedals like that.

Thanks

My apologies back at you, I'll delete and we'll grab 777 & Cactus for a beer or three.

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Watch the video and look at the rudder deflection. Thats being moved by the pilot, not the wind. This guy over-controlled the frick out of that jet

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That's exactly what I thought when I watched the video. Yes, there obviously was a crosswind, but the pilot overcontrolled with the rudder and induced the swerving himself. Watch the rudder surfaces.

In case you think pilots don't make mistakes like this, don't forget the American A300 that crashed in Queens in 2001 due to the pilot slamming the rudder stop to stop after encountering wake turbulence from a 747 ("unnecessary and excessive rudder inputs" per the NTSB report).

Any GA pilot who has ever read Flying Magazine knows that Peter Garrison always has an interesting take on the technical side of flying. Of course, this doesn't include the A380, but read what he says about earlier Airbuses:

When the NTSB reported the rudder of AA Flight 587 came off at below maneuvering speed, it should've given all pilots pause.

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Two other factors were thought to have contributed to the overcontrol. One was the design of the A300-600's rudder control system, which provided very little force feedback. In fact, the additional force needed to drive a pedal to its stop at 250 knots is less than the 22-lb breakout force-intended to prevent inadvertent rudder movements-needed to move the pedal in the first place. A survey of airline airplanes found none with rudder forces lower than those of the A300. Most other Airbus models, however, including the big four-engine A340, have characteristics similar to those of the A300-600, while Boeing and McDonnell-Douglas models without exception have lower breakout forces and considerably higher deflection forces.

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HE does look heavy on the pedals. A lot of rudder deflection. Not keeping it on the ball.

I am imagining that the pilot is a middle age white male.

Am I a racist?

Dude is taking up for you in the thread and you shite on his post by calling out the writer of the AOPA magazine?