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re: Man has meltdown at Trader Joe's for being asked to wear a mask

Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:20 am to
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11148 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:20 am to
quote:

"I believe in freedom, except for the freedom for private businesses to enforce their own rules"


Like a bakery?
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29771 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:21 am to
“No shirt, no shoes, no service” has been a staple sign on the front door of restaurants for decades....and America seemed OK with it.

Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83681 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Like a bakery?


Yes. Exactly.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
14115 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:23 am to
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The mandate was unconstitutional


I agree.

But it's very constitutional for a store to require a mask. Their store, their rules.

I wouldn't go to a store if I didn't like their rules. That's my choice. And the free market will work itself out if enough people agree with me.

This guy, and you, are absolute morons that have no idea what freedom means.

Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66133 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:27 am to
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agree with the guy. All you people saying he should comply or leave are morons. That’s how all this BS continues, by people “complying” wit the insanity. NUT UP and tell em to go frick themselves


There would be another 10 pages of replies if the cops showed up. You would have likely agreed all he had to have done to avoid cuffs was to shut up, comply and leave.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56921 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:28 am to
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I agree.

But it's very constitutional for a store to require a mask. Their store, their rules.

I wouldn't go to a store if I didn't like their rules. That's my choice. And the free market will work itself out if enough people agree with me.



That's the way it used to work.

But, the times have changed. Activism is everything. And, if you sit back and allow those you disagree with to pressure companies to bend to their will while you do nothing, you've given up a lot of your voice.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83681 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:31 am to
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And, if you sit back and allow those you disagree with to pressure companies to bend to their will while you do nothing, you've given up a lot of your voice.



supporting other businesses is not "doing nothing"

in fact, its easily the most effective way to combat bad policy
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37254 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:35 am to
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I'm saying that companies need to be reminded of what their policy should be.


It's Trader freaking Joes. What ideology do you think a majority of their customers enjoy?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37254 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:38 am to
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Activism is everything. And, if you sit back and allow those you disagree with to pressure companies to bend to their will while you do nothing, you've given up a lot of your voice.


But on the last page, you said you weren't willing to protest, use social media, etc, and that it's Texas, people will just ignore.

That's not activism. But you say activism is everything.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
14115 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:42 am to
quote:

But on the last page, you said you weren't willing to protest, use social media, etc, and that it's Texas, people will just ignore.

That's not activism. But you say activism is everything.



Exactly. And what the guy in the video is doing isn't activism, it's attention whoring. He wanted attention and people are giving it to him.

Pretty pitiful honestly. Just shop somewhere else.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56921 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:42 am to
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But on the last page, you said you weren't willing to protest, use social media, etc, and that it's Texas, people will just ignore.

That's not activism. But you say activism is everything.




The activism shown in the video is the more effective activism. Direct pressure, bad public relations, and threats to sue, demanding people don't touch you as you walk through the door are the effective methods.

On this specific topic, simply ignoring the policy and shopping without masks will be very effective.
This post was edited on 3/9/21 at 9:43 am
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83681 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:44 am to
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Direct pressure, bad public relations, and threats to sue, demanding people don't touch you as you walk through the door are the effective methods.



do you have any basic understanding of human nature? this type of "activism" simply causes people to dig into their already held beliefs further

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
14115 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:48 am to
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do you have any basic understanding of human nature?


No he doesn't. That is clear.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
59114 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:49 am to
quote:

That's the way it used to work.

But, the times have changed. Activism is everything. And, if you sit back and allow those you disagree with to pressure companies to bend to their will while you do nothing, you've given up a lot of your voice.



That’s because people buckle and still spend their money at places they don’t agree with. They don’t like it, but they still give them their money. It’s insanity.

Want to change shite? Don’t contribute to their delinquency. Things will change. When they take a big hit to their revenue, they’ll change or go out of business, and good for society either way. We aren’t at their mercy. We have all the tools to change this, but they know we are easy, and so they do whatever they want, and say whatever they want, because they know you’ll take it, and keep on taking it. Stop the insanity. You don’t need to do anything more than just cut them off, and reward those who deserve your hard earned money.





Posted by puse01
Member since Sep 2011
3742 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:51 am to


This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36715 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:57 am to
Guy said "... when I was in California..." lmao, all I need to know. Cali loser moves to TX and is mad he can't walk over Texans. Big L.
Posted by DallasTiger972
Member since Mar 2021
2 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:01 am to
I made an account just to bring up the fact that this guy done this to a business that my buddy owns in McKinney probably 2-3 months ago. Turns out the guy is from California, has been doing this to businesses in California before he moved to McKinney, and does this to places in McKinney including other big businesses such as Best Buy.

Edit:
He says the same exact thing every single time he steps in a business he knows that there’s a mask policy except this time he brought his kids, which sucks for the kids.
This post was edited on 3/9/21 at 10:03 am
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
36231 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:01 am to
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9954 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:03 am to
What a pussy. Sorry that guy is on our side
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56921 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:06 am to
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do you have any basic understanding of human nature? this type of "activism" simply causes people to dig into their already held beliefs further



This kind of activism will lead to more types of this activism. The companies have no real way to police it. The flood of people unwilling to wear masks will simply grow.

You will be proven very wrong.
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