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Male univ. student expelled after being sexually assaulted
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:40 am
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:40 am
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On the night in question—October 8, 2015—John and Jane met up well after midnight, at Drake's Bakery. Both had been at house parties. John had already consumed a huge amount of beer, multiple shots of whiskey, and Red Bull, according to the lawsuit.
Jane allegedly told university officials that she was also intoxicated, although subsequent investigation suggests she exaggerated her level of drunkenness. She claimed that she tripped on the sidewalk, stumbled over, and fell, though a witness refuted this. She also claimed a bartender served her a drink in between the house party and meeting up with John. But the bartender said that never happened.
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As he testified, John Doe was so intoxicated that he only remembered bits and pieces of the oral sex; he stated he was blacked out for large portions of their time in the parked car, and he did not remember giving consent for the oral sex performed on him by Jane Doe. In fact, John Doe did not remember the oral sex performed on him in the parked car until he returned to the car the next morning looking for his debit card which he discovered had fallen out of his pocket.
In the eventual hearing, Jane Doe admitted to initiating the oral sex on John Doe without his consent. Further, she defined "consent" to be when she initiated the sexual activity. She also stated during the hearing that she felt she was "just giving him what [she thought] he wanted."
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The very next day, after piecing together the events of the previous night, Jane and a friend went to the public safety office to report John for sexual assault. She also went to the hospital to obtain a sexual assault examination, but left before any of the tests could be performed. Jane later stated that she doubted herself, asking questions like, "What am I doing?" and "What if I did consent?"
The Title IX investigation included all the familiar, horrifyingly unfair elements typical of these cases. Two officials, Mary Howell Sirna and Tricia McKinney, were tasked with handling the investigation. They decided which witnesses to interview, and—according to John—failed to interview people whose testimony would have helped John.
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Despite Jane's numerous factual misstatements, and her testimony that she had initiated nonconsensual oral sex with John, John was expelled. His suit against Drake alleges breach of contract, negligent infliction of emotional stress, and discrimination on the basis of sex. His lawyer is Andrew Miltenberg, who also represents Grant Neal—the Colorado State University-Pueblo student expelled for sexual assault even though his girlfriend said, "I'm fine and I wasn't raped"—and several other college students who were mistreated by the Title IX process.
WTF.
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This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 11:03 am
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:42 am to NYNolaguy1
This is why administrators shouldn't be put in the business of law enforcement.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:43 am to NYNolaguy1
#justiceforall
#unlessyouaremale
#unlessyouaremale
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:43 am to NYNolaguy1
Minor setback for the major comeback.
Stay up, John.
Stay up, John.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:44 am to NYNolaguy1
This is the kind of shite you have to put up with when you let kids have premarital sex at your University. It's a damn shame.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:45 am to NYNolaguy1
These stories piss me off more than any other stories I read.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:47 am to PrimeTime Money
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These stories piss me off more than any other stories I read.
So glad I am not in college any longer.
Policies like this will make two things happen:
1)Deter male students from hooking up with female students
2)Make male accusations of females much more likely
Why hook up with someone if you know they will falsely accuse you of assault?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:48 am to NYNolaguy1
Should have just accepted the head and went on with it, John. You schmuck.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:48 am to NYNolaguy1
Women's Equality though....
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:50 am to Gings5
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Should have just accepted the head and went on with it, John.
Unfortunately the head came with the sexual assault charge. Even though she started it and he didn't consent.
Best thing he could have done was to say "no", but that could have made things actually worse for him, I think.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:51 am to NYNolaguy1
This kind of thing is directly linked to the Obama administrations hamstringing public universities into increasing Title IX Inquisitions.. er.. "Rules" to prevent the made up statistics of sexual assault on campuses.
That and the utter cowardice, ignorance, and sexism against all that is masculine of college administrations these days
That and the utter cowardice, ignorance, and sexism against all that is masculine of college administrations these days
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:52 am to NYNolaguy1
Got to love liberal progressive thinking.
Man and woman both get shite faced drunk. Being drunk means the woman cannot be responsible for her actions. But the guy on the other hand is 100% responsible for his actions; or in this case he's being held responsible for her actions. How the hell does that make a lick of sense??
And all that while they scream about women being equal. So which is it?
1. Women are equal and no different than men.
or
2. Women are delicate flowers who need special protection from men.
its got to be either 1or 2. But it can't be both.
Man and woman both get shite faced drunk. Being drunk means the woman cannot be responsible for her actions. But the guy on the other hand is 100% responsible for his actions; or in this case he's being held responsible for her actions. How the hell does that make a lick of sense??
And all that while they scream about women being equal. So which is it?
1. Women are equal and no different than men.
or
2. Women are delicate flowers who need special protection from men.
its got to be either 1or 2. But it can't be both.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:54 am to NYNolaguy1
So who filed the initial lawsuit? The article is unclear. Did John file it because he never officially gave "consent"?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:56 am to Gings5
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who filed the initial lawsuit? The article is unclear. Did John file it because he never officially gave "consent"?
John filed suit against the university after he tried to file a sexual assault complaint against her.
Problem is because she filed first, they ruled it as "retaliation".
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:56 am to NYNolaguy1
ole baw got the whiskey dick. and when couldn't get it up, she got pissed.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:57 am to Gings5
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Should have just accepted the head and went on with it, John. You schmuck.
Wouldn't have helped according to the article.
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The very next day, after piecing together the events of the previous night, Jane and a friend went to the public safety office to report John for sexual assault.
Jane goes and reports that John raped her. She later backs down, but once you report that you can't take it back.
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