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re: Makeup: The Most Powerful Product In Manipulating The Sexual Market Place Today

Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:14 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:14 am to
I realize Tinder makes it more efficient, but I was talking about the "attractive, confident guy" having more success part

that has always been the case
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:16 am to
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that has always been the case


Yup. Just a different medium. And it's literally designed to benefit those that are attractive, well educated, and confident.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:17 am to
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Possibly the best part of the article.

when reading i legit lol'd and then read it out loud to my roommate while still laughing

#LikeABoss
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:19 am to
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how is it different than a typical bar scene, other than having a lot more people to go through?

when people go to bars, it's typically in a group. that changes everything

tinder is secret and girls can hook up on the DL without fear of being judged by their groups

also most "bar girl groups" have 1-2 grenades whose job is to act as gatekeepers to prevent the high value females from "making a mistake"

as a former bunker buster, i understand the roles all too well
Posted by chryso
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:24 am to
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If women want to compete for relationships, they need to be more willing to offer sex



You could not be more wrong. The reason men are not getting into relationships is because access to free sex is too easy.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:26 am to
My point only relates when you have many women trying to go after high value men. More competition = higher stakes
This post was edited on 8/14/15 at 10:26 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:26 am to
yeah but women who exclude their sexual values are excluded entirely. how will they find relationships if no males will associate with them?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:27 am to
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My point only relates when you have many women trying to go after high value men.

yeah women who exclude themselves have to "settle" on betas, like my friend i spoke of earlier. that's why he flashes that "i hate alpha" value system. it's like a mating call to find women who will accept them b/c of no other option but who are really looking at their options for a better one
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:28 am to
sorry you are a 2/10 and nobody wants to bang you.
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:33 am to
Looks being prominent is a releitively new trend.

Before women were limited to men within 50 miles of them, plus a lot were not working so they needed financial support (as such, money was most important)

Today its all looks.

A 3/10 who is "confident" will just be labeled creepy so confidence is also irrelevant
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:40 am to
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It's so much harder to commit to a relationship when you live in a big city and are attractive and well educated.


It's not hard unless you have absolutely no desire to have children and a family or you're a weak minded piece of shite with no self confidence control or personal responsibility
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:45 am to
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Looks being prominent is a releitively new trend.


y'all are talking about just hook up, right? if so, looks have always been prominent in hook up culture

now with serious dating/marriage, looks are not the most prominent thing
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:46 am to
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yeah women who exclude themselves have to "settle" on betas, like my friend i spoke of earlier. that's why he flashes that "i hate alpha" value system.


I agree with this. But the definition of alpha isn't lower to middle management douche that only works his glamour muscles.

Alpha males provide safety and security while being generally better than other males. Sitting in the gym after you get out of the shift at your regional sales job isn't going to give them woman what she wants. It'll attract shallow trash, but who wants that.

There's also a mass influx of borderline retarded Instagram whores who will frick anything. Which has inflated the faux alpha males confidence in our society. Peacocks are strutting around picking up stupid whores and feeling like gods. It's hilarious.

Then these little betas sit back and whine about the peacocks and their whores. True alphas concern themselves with non of these.


Women settling for betas are those women that have been burned by the gym rats so they settle on some loser with no qualities because he's too much of a pussy to stand up for himself or leave.

In short, alpha isn't all about looks, though you can't be the guy from the mask, it's about being better, and that can mean confidence and cunning.
This post was edited on 8/14/15 at 10:52 am
Posted by chryso
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:47 am to
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yeah but women who exclude their sexual values are excluded entirely. how will they find relationships if no males will associate with them?


I don't mean that particular women need to stop giving it up for free. I mean that all women need to stop giving it up for free.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:48 am to
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that's why he flashes that "i hate alpha" value system. it's like a mating call to find women who will accept them b/c of no other option but who are really looking at their options for a better one



He'll land a winner. She'll be like 29-34 and ran through a ton of alphas
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:48 am to
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It's not hard unless you have absolutely no desire to have children and a family or you're a weak minded piece of shite with no self confidence control or personal responsibility



Sorry you're ugly, bro.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:50 am to
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Sorry you're ugly, bro.


I'm not ugly. Nor is my fiance. But it's not hard not to cheat on her. I've had women try. It's not worth it to throw my relationship away. Some random hos puss isn't worth it.

It's fine if you don't want to be in a serious long term relationship, to each his own, but don't act like it's hard to be in one. It's not.
This post was edited on 8/14/15 at 10:53 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:52 am to
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Alpha males provide safety and security while being generally better than other males. Sitting in the gym after you get out of the shift at your regional sales job isn't going to give them woman what she wants. It'll attract shallow trash, but who wants that.


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Women settling for betas are those women that have been burned by the gym rats so they settle on some loser with no qualities because he's too much of a pussy to stand up for himself or leave.


Well, these two things are pretty interesting because I know several dudes who are alpha in the sense they did really well for themselves in the work world/with money and landed some women out of their class looks-wise. But, they get walked all over and are complete pussies. It's all so confusing.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:52 am to
A happy ltr is statistically very uncommon actually.

Divorce/infidelity rates aren't exactly low...
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:53 am to
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It's fine if you don't want to be in a serious long term relationship, to each his own, but don't act like it's hard to be in one. It's not.


Dating is a sexual marketplace. I'm not near my potential value as a man. Why should I lock myself into a relationship now? Apps like tinder just make it easier to stay single
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