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re: Looking like the masterminds behind the Whitmer Kidnapping plot may have been FBI agents

Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:39 am to
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:39 am to
You don't say.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49840 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:39 am to
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CrimsonFever


You seem to be having an issue grasping the definition of entrapment.




He has issues grabbing his arse with both hands.
Posted by HabaneroBuck
Up a ways.
Member since Oct 2020
1359 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:40 am to
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I'll bet you your lunch money today that The FBI and CIA are the primary forces behind "White supremacy" in the USA.


When Federal Agencies claim that White Supremacists are the biggest terrorist threat in the United States, we actually need to take them seriously. They gonna make it happen.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54838 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:40 am to
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These guys trained for this kidnapping made plans for it. "The FBI made me do it" isnt a defense that's gonna get them any sympathy in court. I bet they get 20 years each at least.

Something tells me you have argued the exact opposite of this before. The actors then were just....different.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80803 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:56 am to
Alex Jones looking more and more sane these days
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25395 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:56 am to
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Alex Jones looking more and more sane these days



Let's not get carried away....
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17940 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:31 pm to
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Something tells me you have argued the exact opposite of this before. The actors then were just....different.


I don't defend terrorists whether they are Republican or Democrat. Can you say the same?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:39 pm to
now you’re just melting down. sad.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54838 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:40 pm to
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I don't defend terrorists whether they are Republican or Democrat.

You wouldn't lie, would you?
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17940 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:52 pm to
I remember a thread on here with people in here claiming these guys were Antifa when this happened. Now the FBI did it all and these are just good innocent christian militia members who mean no harm. You cant even settle on what deflection to use.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2994 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:56 pm to
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I remember a thread on here with people in here claiming these guys were Antifa when this happened. Now the FBI did it all and these are just good innocent christian militia members who mean no harm.


So it’s your opinion that the FBI’s behavior in this case is okay because they were targeting some random group that may have supported Trump?
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:01 pm to
Supporting Trump has nothing to do with it. If it had been armed democrats in a militia who made plans to kidnap Ron Desantis I would still call them what they are, terrorists. Political affiliation has nothing to do with it for me.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72193 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:02 pm to
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So it’s your opinion that the FBI’s behavior in this case is okay because they were targeting some random group that may have supported Trump?
It appears that his opinion is that the FBI should be permitted to join a group, no matter their opinions or previous actions, come up with an illegal plan, convince the members to undergo that action, and then arrest them for performing said action.

In other words, CrimsonFever simply supports entrapment.

No idea whether his views pertain to the act of entrapment itself or waver based on the politics of those involved.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Member since Jul 2012
17940 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:04 pm to
This wasnt entrapment imo. If these guys are found innocent because it was I will apologize and say I was wrong. These are bad guys and are gonna get a lot of prison time I suspect.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261677 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:04 pm to
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. If it had been armed democrats in a militia who made plans to kidnap Ron Desantis


Sounds like the FBI made plans to kidnap Whitmer.

You love the FBI.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261677 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:04 pm to
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This wasnt entrapment imo.


If the FBI planted the idea, you are wrong.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 1:06 pm
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32121 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:05 pm to
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If it had been armed democrats in a militia who made plans to kidnap Ron Desantis I would still call them what they are, terrorists.


And if the FBI "informants" created and lead the whole scheme?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32121 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:05 pm to
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If the FBI planted the idea, you bet your arse it could be.



Democrats turn into bootlickers now that the FBI is carrying out their political agenda.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72193 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:06 pm to
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This wasnt entrapment imo.
Well, your opinion isn’t what is being alleged in the article.

It is the exact opposite.
quote:

If these guys are found innocent because it was I will apologize and say I was wrong.


Scruffy has been on TD long enough to know this won’t happen.

And these individuals will be found guilty even if innocent.

That is the nature of our federal government, the FBI, and the courts.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261677 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:06 pm to
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now that the FBI


Democrats love the FBI because its Federal. They're usually too ignorant to realize the FBI does what they accuse regular police depts. of doing.
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