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re: looking at building a house in a flood zone

Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:57 am to
Posted by Jimbeaux28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
4051 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:57 am to
I am currently about to build in flood zone AE here in East Baton Rouge parish.

The BFE is 25 feet and I am being required to build at 27.2 feet because of a sanitary sewer manhole that is at 26.2 feet (have to be a foot higher than that)

Dirt is cheap, flood insurance is not. I plan on bringing in fill dirt to bring the top of my slab to 28 feet and deal with the aesthetics of having my slab 3 feet higher than anything else surrounding it later.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:04 am to
You own the lot already?


If not, I'll sell you a better one in the same flood zone in Lewisburg in Mandeville
Posted by mandevilletiger34
Member since Dec 2010
863 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:04 am to
I'm trying to figure how high I would have to build off the ground using the address below as a similar house in the same subdivision.

479 E Chase Ct
Mandeville 70448

LINK
Posted by mandevilletiger34
Member since Dec 2010
863 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:07 am to
quote:

You own the lot already?


If not, I'll sell you a better one in the same flood zone in Lewisburg in Mandeville


where are we talking?
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:07 am to
quote:

479 E Chase Ct
Mandeville 70448


You have no clue how close that adress is to where I grew up for 15 years. The house you linked is my best friends old house. They moved as well.

hint: look across the street.

Parents just sold it. Flood insurance was insane. We were only up 10' though.

All of those houses are raised up, they just don't look raised up. In Mville as long as there's no bathrooms/stuff on first level, it is considered raised



ETA: my lot is better.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 9:11 am
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:26 am to
email me

This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 9:49 am
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28148 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:35 am to
quote:

I plan on bringing in fill dirt to bring the top of my slab to 28 feet


They gave you the OK to do that?
Posted by Mudflap007
The big D
Member since Sep 2013
216 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:37 am to
Slick back is right, twice.

The flood zone is an elevation. Remember this.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28148 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:37 am to
quote:

I'm trying to figure how high I would have to build off the ground using the address below as a similar house in the same subdivi


Go to Koop Drive and talk to the Engineering Department. They will have the latest maps and regs.

There is a ton of bad information in this thread.

You don't want any surprises.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Go to Koop Drive and talk to the Engineering Department. They will have the latest maps and regs.

There is a ton of bad information in this thread.

You don't want any surprises.



Nah, he needs to buy my lot instead. I'll walk him through the zoning, insurance, design, and construction if he wants.
Posted by Jimbeaux28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
4051 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:40 am to
quote:


They gave you the OK to do that?



I am expected to lift to 27.2. How do the expect me to do that if I can't bring in dirt?
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:41 am to
quote:

I plan on bringing in fill dirt to bring the top of my slab to 28 feet


They gave you the OK to do that?


For real. DEQ will shut your arse down with the quickness you start filling a "wetland" (btw a pine savannah in SE LA is considered a wetland, also anything you need flood insurance on as well 99% of the time).
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:42 am to
quote:

I am expected to lift to 27.2. How do the expect me to do that if I can't bring in dirt?


piers

or you can get a permit. You may not need one, but chances are if you are at risk for flood insurance, you're gonna need a permit/mitigate to fill the lot.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 9:43 am
Posted by Jimbeaux28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
4051 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:45 am to
quote:


For real. DEQ will shut your arse down with the quickness you start filling a "wetland" (btw a pine savannah in SE LA is considered a wetland, also anything you need flood insurance on as well 99% of the time).


What if the fill dirt comes from my lot?
Posted by Jimbeaux28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
4051 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:49 am to
I figured I would need to have my fill inspected to make sure I wasn't impacting the neighbors with run off. Wasn't aware that I would need a permit to bring in fill dirt.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:50 am to
I'd talking to city planning and zoning department if I were you.

you may be able to get away with it, but I bet you are going to change the drainage situation, which is technically what they don't want to happen.

Or just do it, and build fast before anyone notices
Posted by Jimbeaux28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
4051 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Or just do it, and build fast before anyone notices


I wish I had the balls to gamble the cost of construction on this. Lol
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:52 am to
quote:

VetteGuy
quote:

Are you saying you can add fill to bring a lot/pad above BFE?


Absolutely. Now the tricky part is depending on where you build. If you're on waterfront property in some cases they may require you to purchase a commensurate amount of land in a "wetlands landbank" but I'm sort've going off on a tangent here.

But yes, I did it personally and other people bring in fill to ensure that your lot is less prone to flood and also to ensure your pad/slab is above BFE.

ETA: Vette, I forgot the OP said he's in a VE. Deeeeefinitely changes my advice. Sorry for the confusion. I did not do this in a VE. Pier and beam elevation would be the answer here.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 9:57 am
Posted by 68wDoc68w
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1869 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:55 am to
quote:

am looking at building a house in a flood zone: VE



I don't know exactly what that means but my flood insurance went from 480 to 1300 FML

so don't build in the governments racket to refill FEMA's coffers
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39908 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:11 am to
quote:

dirt pad


VE zone.

Dirt won't work.

That close to the lake, he'll have to be 12-16' above the base... pilings only and break-away walls if he wants to close in the lower portion.

Insurance won't be out of control.
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