re: Living together before marriage

The main bargaining chip a man has is the ability to walk and have options and see other women. If the woman believes she is replaceable she will be on her best behavior and do what she needs to do in order to retain his commitment

Once a man moves with her in it implies a level of comfort. You could say it's a failed comfort test. Now that she is living with him she knows it's much harder for him to walk. She can now get away with more. Little by little. The comfort tests and shite tests slowly but surely begin to build up and she will see how far she can go and still get away with.

All of the shite you have learned and talk about applies to trashy skanks, attention whores, and chicks that are in it for the money. No respectable guy dates those types of women

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All of the shite you have learned and talk about applies to trashy skanks, attention whores, and chicks that are in it for the money. No respectable guy dates those types of women

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How do you know the women you date didn't used to be a cum dumpster for Chad Brad and Thad?

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Neither of us feels the need to ask for permission to do anything. We give each other a heads up but I'm never going to try to control her and the inverse also applies.

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First - I am a believer in living together before marriage.

But I don't agree with this statement. It isn't about permission or controlling each other. It is just having someone judge your actions that did not before.

If I live with my SO and we are sitting on the couch watching TV/playing on phones and I get a text from a friend to come to the bar down the street and have a couple drinks, my SO might not forbid or control this, but I can't just get up and put on clothes and walk out. At the very least, I have to tell them where I'm going. And if it is 9PM on a Tuesday and we were pretty wound down for the night, she might think it is crazy [and even possibly not like] that I'm getting up/dressed at 9PM to get a drink. But living apart without anyone to care, that's a regular thing I do.

You're talking to a dude firmly on the autism spectrum. Don't waste your time.

I've only dated one chick whom I didn't know her almost entire life's history, or was good friends with someone who did.

I don't trust chicks I don't know. I did once, and it didn't work out.


Eta: I'm nowhere near as cynical as you. I just won't put any effort into someone I'm unsure I can trust 100%.

And I've dated a chick who nailed all of the Chad, Brad, Thads, etc you can think of. She was up front about it. Didn't bother me at all because I'm not insecure

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NYNolaguy1 Its a lot easier to break off a relationship and lease when you're not married. Get married then move in together for the first time, hate living together, and get divorced. That's the real mess.

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I would say defiantly wait to have kids after getting married as well. These bitches aren't afraid to dump your arse even with a infinite which blows my freaking mind. It is a no lose game for them. They get half of everything, the kids and an monthly payment for 18 freaking years... It is truly the worst contract you will ever sign.

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I've only dated one chick whom I didn't know her almost entire life's history, or was good friends with someone who did.

I don't trust chicks I don't know. I did once, and it didn't work out

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The thing is, even if you think you know her, do you really?

The girl I referenced in my last post, the one who popped out Jamal's baby, it was a major red pulling eye opening moment for me. If she ended up being a whore, any woman can be one.

It's like gambling. There are no sure things. All you can do is increase your odds of success as much as possible and then let the chips fall where they may.

It's why I care so much about red flags.

Tattoos or exotic piercings? Red flag

Daddy issues or bad relationship with father? Red flag

Single mom? Red flag

Obsessed with social media and the validation that comes with it? Red flag

Drug use(that includes weed)? Red flag

Gets plastered when drinking? Red flag

There are more of course but those are examples

I know what you all will say. "If all those things are red flags to you, you will never find a woman!". That's fine. Nothing says I have to get married. My life will be awesome either way. Why roll the dice on something like marriave when the odds are not in your favor? I'd be better off putting half of my net worth on a hand of blackjack. I'd rather be single my whole life than settle for a woman with red flag(s).

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whole red pill/pick up artist crew

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False equivalency

Red pill and PUA are two different things

Red pill is all about making yourself the best and most valuable man you can be in all areas of life. If you do that then higher value women should come naturally.

PUA is about manipulating women and not improving yourself