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re: Little Rock Airport Executive Director Injured After Shootout with ATF (Update - now dead)
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:33 pm to RazorBroncs
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:33 pm to RazorBroncs
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He was taking the guns seized by security at the airport home, stockpiling them, and selling them on the black market to some very bad people
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Same with drugs. He was using flights out of the airport to move those things throughout the country.
How many guns and drugs are seized at an airport? Knowing you will 100% be searched or scanned....
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He was using flights out of the airport to move those things throughout the country.
You make it sound like he was on Barry Seal's level.. I doubt it.
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It's believed they were moving large amounts of drugs and guns through security and paying him - and a couple others - off in the process.
Who is they?
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The ATF was actually doing their legit job in this instance.
I agree.. But i'd sure like to see a list of this large quantity of firearms he confiscated and stockpiled..It just doesn't add up.
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:37 pm to RazorBroncs
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Got pretty good sources on this, so believe me when I say that this guy lived a double life to the fullest extent one could.
He was taking the guns seized by security at the airport home, stockpiling them, and selling them on the black market to some very bad people. Same with drugs. He was using flights out of the airport to move those things throughout the country.
He was also allowing certain individuals through security without being checked, for some hefty amounts of money. It's believed they were moving large amounts of drugs and guns through security and paying him - and a couple others - off in the process.
This was not some good, innocent dude.
Who told you this? How do we really know? One thing is certain; the man will never be able to tell his side of the story.
Why not arrest the man at work at the same time you surround his house. Go in with a warrant, search, find the incriminating stuff, and take him to criminal court for prosecution? If that had been done we could be confident about what happened.
BTW, every poster on here who chimes in every now and then about some sicko who supposedly raped a kid or something, and says he should be shot right away. Why waste resources on him? Well, this is why. They shot this guy right away. They killed Epstein before his trial. And now we'll never know. Maybe that "sicko" wasn't a sicko at all. Maybe he had something on a big politician.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:42 pm to riverdiver
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Security certainly intercepts a handgun, knife, or loose bullets from time to time, but nowhere near a quantity that could be considered a volume enough to stockpile and sell to very bad people.
The Cartel pays off employees all the time to allow drugs to pass through. You could put plenty of guns in a golf bag and some employee will make sure it's not xrayed and it gets to its final destination. This is easy.
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I’d assume they have TSA there, if he was smuggling drugs, thugs, and weapons he’d have to bypass them in favor of private jets.
Nope. The person doing personal xray is paid a large sum to turn a blind eye as they pass through.
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Doesn’t smell right, I bet someone was on the trail of a story and someone influential made sure he was the fall guy.
Could be, but I'm betting he was working with the Cartel. He wasn't selling guns to random people around the country.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:00 pm to Tempratt
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Prez Bush Sr called the ATF jack booted thugs.
I liked him and his son.
Yeah, atf bad, head of cia good
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:07 pm to Ghost of Colby
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Another requirement is safety of the authorities while executing the warrant. This guy had a job and responsibilities. He wasn’t holed up in a safe house hiding from authorities. They knew his schedule and could have caught him by surprise at any number of other locations or times.
Exactly. Arrest him in his office at the airport, show him the warrant and search his house.
But they get their jollies sending in an urban assault team equipped like they were doing a raid in Fallujah.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:13 pm to Jcorye1
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Until they actually come for the guns, thus violating the Constitution.
Missed Waco, huh?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:14 pm to WhuckFistle
Sounds like a sniper hit him before he knew what was happening. Now only one side of the story gets out. The whole “shootout” is a concocted story. Scumbags.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:26 pm to riverdiver
This was a wide ranging investigation. I wouldn’t be surprised if at one point the ATF was investigating the guns, then Homeland Security, FBI, DEA….. all get pulled into it. Drugs, theft, security breaches, international smuggling of illegal contraband and people, etc. A lot of different agencies were involved.
The ATF uses the gun angle to justify the special warrant and pre-dawn raid so they can swoop in and steal the headlines.
The ATF uses the gun angle to justify the special warrant and pre-dawn raid so they can swoop in and steal the headlines.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:32 pm to WyattDonnelly
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Sounds like a sniper hit him before he knew what was happening. Now only one side of the story gets out. The whole “shootout” is a concocted story. Scumbags.
The report I read said the first officer was shot and a second officer returned fire.
But that is too tame I guess.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:33 pm to The Quiet One
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Missed Waco, huh?
Well I didn't live in Waco, so not exactly sure what I'm supposed to be doing.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:38 pm to Ghost of Colby
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the ATF was investigating the guns, then Homeland Security, FBI, DEA….. all get pulled into it. Drugs, theft, security breaches, international smuggling of illegal contraband and people, etc.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:03 pm to Penrod
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Who told you this? How do we really know? One thing is certain; the man will never be able to tell his side of the story.
razorbroncs is a pretty solid source when it comes to information like this.
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Why not arrest the man at work at the same time you surround his house. Go in with a warrant, search, find the incriminating stuff, and take him to criminal court for prosecution? If that had been done we could be confident about what happened.
Then you'd be saying all the "evidence" had been planted.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:30 pm to kengel2
He dead:
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:49 pm to Kjnstkmn
"The ATF has killed a man in his hometown"
They make it sound like they just picked some guy and said "yep, let's kill him!"
This man was involved with something akin to the cartel/gangs, who got their fangs in him and used him - they also paid him very handsomely despite the fact that he already made $264,000 a year at work. Dude got greedy.
And for the person upthread that said this spans several different fed agencies, the FBI is also involved as is the Marshals. I don't have the minute details but this was a big-time investigation, there's still threads to this that I do not know.
Even if he survived, he was spending the rest of his life in the fed pen. Probably not a bad outcome because his life and family would've been in danger, this guy has "flip and help the feds" written all over him - and if I know that, his handlers do too.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 4:08 pm to kengel2
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razorbroncs is a pretty solid source when it comes to information like this.
I don’t care how good a source he is. He doesn’t know what the dead man knew, and THAT we will never find out because the shitheads shot him. Why is it necessary to kick down a man’s door in the middle of the night? Just arrest him when he routinely goes to work.
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Then you'd be saying all the "evidence" had been planted.
Maybe, that’s not my typical style, but the man would be alive with a chance to defend himself.
You are just excusing the tyrannical law enforcement regime that has developed, in which they almost randomly kick down doors and start shooting people - even people who are completely innocent of anything at all.
I get it if it’s KSM or Osama Bin Laden, but citizens suspected of crimes should be arrested in an orderly fashion, not through pell-mell attacks on their homes.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 4:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yeah. I bought two firearms on the same day and I guess that raised a flag.
I’ve heard people say this but I’ve bought several at once. 3-4 shotguns and an entire pallet of 40 cases of shells for the farm on one day once and never had an ATF agent visit. Another time I bought an AR-15, a 9mm handgun, defense tactical shotgun and a 9mm CZ Scorpoin with 500 rds of .223 and .500 rds of 9mm in one day. No problems
Posted on 3/20/24 at 4:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It never makes sense to get into a shootout with LEO unless
You bring equal or superior firepower to the fight.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:03 pm to Penrod
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Why is it necessary to kick down a man’s door in the middle of the night? Just arrest him when he routinely goes to work.
Because they're normally sleeping. Why would you try to bring him in when is awake and able to see you coming?
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You are just excusing the tyrannical law enforcement regime that has developed, in which they almost randomly kick down doors and start shooting people - even people who are completely innocent of anything at all.
Really is that what you took from my post? I guess I've been lucky, my door has never randomly be kicked down?
Has anyone else here randomly had their door kicked in from no knock warrant by a tyrannical government?
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get it if it’s KSM or Osama Bin Laden, but citizens suspected of crimes should be arrested in an orderly fashion, not through pell-mell attacks on their homes.
All he had to do was surrender and have his day in court.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:07 pm to rundmcrun
quote:FOIA excludes on-going criminal investigations from such requests.
Sounds like a violation of the FOIA act.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 3:35 am to CAD703X
Why the "guns!" parade for the neighbors to see?
How often does an alphabet crew not give a shite what the neighbors see?
Yeah, why 6am in the dark?
How often does an alphabet crew not give a shite what the neighbors see?
Yeah, why 6am in the dark?
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