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Let's talk Homicides & the effectiveness of Murphy Paul's strategies to combat this crime
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:49 pm
Sharon Weston Broome ran on a campaign to get rid of Carl Dabadie as chief of police of the Baton Rouge Police Department because he would not fire the officers involved in the Alton Sterling shooting. Dabadie's performance as chief had no bearing on her decision. Didn't matter how low the crime rate was, Dabadie had to go because he refused to fire an officer that had shot a black man.
I had a lengthy thread on here in the months following the Sterling shooting showing the hypocrisy of the BLM movement, local community "leaders", & city officials demanding change. The thread is here: LINK.
In that thread, after 103 black people were killed in Baton Rouge after the Sterling killing, I posted this:
In the aftermath of the Sterling shooting, Broome ran off Dabadie and put in a chief that gave her and her supporters the reform they sought.
There is now plenty of data available to see how effective Paul has been as police chief and if his methods are working. In fact, both Dabadie & Paul have 4 years to compare
So here are the stats:
Let’s do a straight comparison between Dabadie and Paul. Both have 4 years of data that allow for a better comparison. The data can be seen here, here, and here
Homicides by year while chief of BRPD
Carl Dabadie:
2013: 49
2014: 53
2015: 60
2016: 47
Total: 209
Yearly Average: 52
Murphy Paul
2018: 78
2019: 69
2020: 101
2021: 120
Total: 368
Yearly Average: 92
In the direct comparison above, there have been 159 more people killed in those 4 full years Paul has been chief compared to the 4 full years that Dabadie was chief. That is an increase of 76.08%
So, all the reforms, programs, & changes have resulted in a 76% INCREASE in killings. Is this called effective policing?
The best year for Paul was in 2019 when there were 69 killings in the city. That's 9 more homicides than Dadadie's worst year in 2015. Paul's best year is still a 15% increase in the number of killings in Dabadie's worst year as chief.
Lets take a look further back and compare the multi year tenure's of every BRPD police chief since 2001, (which is the first year listed on BRPD's crime state page.. LINK
So by the yearly homicide average, here is how all the full-time police chiefs in Baton Rouge of the last 21 year rank:
1. Pat Englade..........48
2. Carl Dabadie.........52
3. Jeff LeDuff.............65
4. DeWayne White....66
5. Murphy Paul..........92
According to the data, more people are killed on average each year under Murphy Paul's leadership than any other chief in at least the last 21 years. The most effect chief according to the data was Pat Englade.
Are these new crime strategies working when the city is trending in the wrong direction? Is it time for a different approach?
The numbers are the numbers
I had a lengthy thread on here in the months following the Sterling shooting showing the hypocrisy of the BLM movement, local community "leaders", & city officials demanding change. The thread is here: LINK.
In that thread, after 103 black people were killed in Baton Rouge after the Sterling killing, I posted this:
quote:
I have two very simple questions for the Baton Rouge Community leaders and activists:
1. What will police reform do to reduce the above list?
2. Why is Sterling's death, which is an anomaly when compared to the list of names above, more important than any of the deaths listed?
In the aftermath of the Sterling shooting, Broome ran off Dabadie and put in a chief that gave her and her supporters the reform they sought.
There is now plenty of data available to see how effective Paul has been as police chief and if his methods are working. In fact, both Dabadie & Paul have 4 years to compare
So here are the stats:
Let’s do a straight comparison between Dabadie and Paul. Both have 4 years of data that allow for a better comparison. The data can be seen here, here, and here
Homicides by year while chief of BRPD
Carl Dabadie:
2013: 49
2014: 53
2015: 60
2016: 47
Total: 209
Yearly Average: 52
Murphy Paul
2018: 78
2019: 69
2020: 101
2021: 120
Total: 368
Yearly Average: 92
In the direct comparison above, there have been 159 more people killed in those 4 full years Paul has been chief compared to the 4 full years that Dabadie was chief. That is an increase of 76.08%
So, all the reforms, programs, & changes have resulted in a 76% INCREASE in killings. Is this called effective policing?
The best year for Paul was in 2019 when there were 69 killings in the city. That's 9 more homicides than Dadadie's worst year in 2015. Paul's best year is still a 15% increase in the number of killings in Dabadie's worst year as chief.
Lets take a look further back and compare the multi year tenure's of every BRPD police chief since 2001, (which is the first year listed on BRPD's crime state page.. LINK
quote:
Pat Englade
2001: 46
2002: 59
2003: 41
2004: 47
Total: 193
Yearly Average: 48
quote:
Jeff LeDuff
2005: 49
2006: 56
2007: 72
2008: 67
2009: 75
2010: 69
Total: 388
Yearly Average: 65
quote:
Dewayne White
2011: 64
2012: 67
Total: 131
Yearly Average: 66
So by the yearly homicide average, here is how all the full-time police chiefs in Baton Rouge of the last 21 year rank:
1. Pat Englade..........48
2. Carl Dabadie.........52
3. Jeff LeDuff.............65
4. DeWayne White....66
5. Murphy Paul..........92
According to the data, more people are killed on average each year under Murphy Paul's leadership than any other chief in at least the last 21 years. The most effect chief according to the data was Pat Englade.
Are these new crime strategies working when the city is trending in the wrong direction? Is it time for a different approach?
The numbers are the numbers
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:54 pm to SPEEDY
This I not just a Baton Rouge issue, it's a national issue.
When you have an Administration that honors criminals at the same time blames all domestic problems on white supremacy, you get a trickled down devaluation of law and order.
And here are the results.
When you have an Administration that honors criminals at the same time blames all domestic problems on white supremacy, you get a trickled down devaluation of law and order.
And here are the results.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:54 pm to SPEEDY
It’s not all on Paul
How many officers have left since the Sterling incident?
A large part of the problem is Broome & the metro council
How many officers have left since the Sterling incident?
A large part of the problem is Broome & the metro council
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:57 pm to SPEEDY
How exactly does a police chief stop black people from shooting other blacks people? Seriously, tell us.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:01 pm to LSUJML
They're all to blame.
Fed gov't
State gov't
local gov't
You can't expect the fed and state to fix your issues though. I venture to say that if SWB and Paul actually gave a shite, those numbers wouldn't be so damn high and they wouldn't be rising so much year after year. Either they don't care, or they're that inept. Can we recall the mayor?
Fed gov't
State gov't
local gov't
You can't expect the fed and state to fix your issues though. I venture to say that if SWB and Paul actually gave a shite, those numbers wouldn't be so damn high and they wouldn't be rising so much year after year. Either they don't care, or they're that inept. Can we recall the mayor?
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:04 pm to SixthAndBarone
idk give Carl Dabadie a phone call and ask him
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:04 pm to SixthAndBarone
Push the mayor & metro council to allocate money to raise pay to keep officers / hire more officers
Push the mayor & DA to keep criminals in jail
Push the mayor & DA to keep criminals in jail
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:05 pm to SixthAndBarone
quote:
How exactly does a police chief stop black people from shooting other blacks people? Seriously, tell us.
Actively pursue the violent offenders in your city with a healthy police force. The BRPD is far from healthy as an organization. That would at least reduce the original problem.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:06 pm to SPEEDY
I don't know anything about Murphy Paul and his abilities or lack thereof as a police chief. But to blame him solely and not address the macro issue that is Democrat policy making is a waste of time. Murphy Paul is just a cop. SWB and her ilk are to blame for the policies that make crime inconsequential.
And to the point above, this is a nationwide epidemic.
And to the point above, this is a nationwide epidemic.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:07 pm to SixthAndBarone
quote:
How exactly does a police chief stop black people from shooting other blacks people? Seriously, tell us.
Maybe start by asking Pat Englade or Carl Dadadie since they were way more effective at preventing it than the current strategies are
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:12 pm to broadhead
Resurrect Harry Lee and send him to Baton Rouge.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:16 pm to SPEEDY
quote:
Carl Dabadie: 2013: 49 2014: 53 2015: 60 2016: 47 Total: 209 Yearly Average: 52 Murphy Paul 2018: 78 2019: 69 2020: 101 2021: 120 Total: 368
It’s always Covid-19’s fault
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:16 pm to LSUJML
quote:Paul is a symptom, not the cancer.
It’s not all on Paul
quote:
Broome & the metro council
Stage 4 governoma
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:29 pm to East Coast Band
quote:
This I not just a Baton Rouge issue, it's a national issue.
It's not a national issue. It's an issue in about two hundred cities. The other twenty thousand municipalities in the US are doing just fine.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:47 pm to SPEEDY
quote:
Are these new crime strategies working when the city is trending in the wrong direction? Is it time for a different approach?
Of course they aren’t working. And of course it’s time for a different approach. The problem is until everyone recognizes the real problems and the root causes of those problems, it will never change. Or I should say one side recognizes the problems/roots, because the other side already knows why. But the ones in charge will continue to turn a blind eye to what causes the problems because they don’t want to risk criticism for speaking the truth (or they just plain don’t care, which is likely as well).
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 8:11 am
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:53 pm to SPEEDY
Cool, what are you going to do to keep gang members from hunting and killing other gang members? Does it really matter?
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:00 pm to Mr Happy
sad
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 5:51 am
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:02 pm to Spook
quote:
in all fairness, Pat Englade was prior to all that New Orleans trash relocating to Baton Ruege’.
Carl Dabadie was chief after all the New Orleans people relocated to Baton Rouge
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