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re: Just finished "Rebel Yell", a book about Stonewall Jackson

Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:35 pm to
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:35 pm to
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Exactly. There wouldn't have been a Confederate army left to defend Richmond with if Jackson had been in command instead of Lee.

Jackson could inspire his men, in my opinion he was the best general in the war in that respect.

Lee was a phenomenal tactician and his conservative strategies were the chief reason why the Confederacy was able to hold on as long as they did.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:36 pm to
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"Rebel Yell"


I'm just getting into this book and so far I'm loving it! It's sitting on the end table right next to me in fact.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19583 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:38 pm to
Exactly, the war should have never even made it to Gettysburg, not taking Washington was a fatal blunder.
OP. I suggest trying to search here and the poli board, this subject has been discussed numerous times on here. If I was at a computer I would link my bookmarks for you.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:39 pm to
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he was the best general in the war in that respect.


I think he was of the best generals in American history.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58107 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:39 pm to
It doesn't slack off and stays great all the way through!


Idk where you are at in it but it's very interesting that one of the biggest reasons for Jackson's successes and also of his failures was that he was one of the few Officers who understood how much info leaked out to the other side and therefore kept his plans almost entirely secret from everyone

This of course on many occasions led to confusion amongst his subordinates during the heat of battle
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:41 pm to
You should also watch the movie 'Gods and Generals.'
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:41 pm to
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Jackson could inspire his men, in my opinion he was the best general in the war in that respect.


Lee's men loved him and would've gone to hell to fight the devil himself with him if he asked them to. Lee just wasn't a rambonxious (sp?) leader.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19583 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:41 pm to
Well that is true but it is my understanding that Lee and Davis shared the same strategy for the war.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:43 pm to
This question got buried on the first page, gonna ask again.

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What if the CSA would've used Forrest more?
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58107 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:43 pm to
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You should also watch the movie 'Gods and Generals.'


Is it on Netflix or anything?
Posted by Muice
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:44 pm to
Yee yee
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58107 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:44 pm to
I need to study Forest more, of course I know the basics but he may be the next guy I read up on
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6326 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:45 pm to
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rambonxious

You may have coined the best word to describe Jackson.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58107 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:46 pm to
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Lee was a phenomenal tactician and his conservative strategies were the chief reason why the Confederacy was able to hold on as long as they did.


This isn't entirely accurate IMO. Yes later on in the War Lee did a remarkable job holding the army together with shoestring and avoiding absolute destruction from the north but earlier on when the southern forces were in a much better position Lee was often very agressive
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:47 pm to
Don't know but it is worth the watch. Basically all about Jackson and shows him wrecking shop.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:49 pm to
The best way I can describe Lee and Jackson is Bradley and Patton in WWII. Both men were extremely talented Generals and their men loved them, their tactics were just way different.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:49 pm to
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What if the CSA would've used Forrest more?


If Forrest had his way at Chickamauga the war would have ended there.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:52 pm to
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I need to study Forest more, of course I know the basics but he may be the next guy I read up on


Forrest is an extremely interesting character in the war. Moved up from the rank of private to Lieutenant General. Wasn't school taught on the tactics of cavalry and ended up being the best cavalry commander of the war imo.

I may be misremembering, but I think the European powers (primarily Germans) learned a lot of their style in later wars by watching Forrest wreak havoc on the Union Army.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
72591 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:57 pm to
*rambunctious..just fyi.

I read it early last year so forgive my memory. I was struck by

-his peculiarities while an instructor at VMI
-the nature of the relationship between Lee and Jackson. Almost unspoken communication in many instances.
-that ONE period where he kind of lost it, going several days on almost no sleep..through some swamps? maybe?

Anyway, Great book
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35894 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 9:01 pm to
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Take Little Round Top on the first day of fighting at Gettysbur


Don't you mean take Culp's Hill on day one?
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 9:18 pm
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