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re: Jury finds all Oregon standoff defendants not guilty
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:03 pm to slackster
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:03 pm to slackster
quote:
but this entire Oregon ordeal was originally about an arson case
Nah, it wasn't, much more to it than that. But the Bundies and their ilk were the worst people to "represent" it.
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Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:04 pm to stout
Jury nullification
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:those people are everywhere!
the BLM and....
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:04 pm to stout
quote:
US taking over whole states
Not exactly. After the US govt. Took over vast areas of the West from the original indigenous occupants (usually via bogus treaties) the land was offered to white settlers. The settlers took the best land and left the mountains, deserts, etc. in federal hands. BLM, USFS, etc. manage those lands under a multiple-use mandate. Those lands belong to all of us and ranchers, farmers, timber companies, etc. should pay us fair market value to use them for commercial purposes. The occupants were in the WRONG.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:05 pm to LSURussian
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I haven't followed this. Were they really not guilty?
frick no. They were as guilty as one can be, but as someone stated earlier, this was a case of jury nullification.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:08 pm to islandtiger
quote:
Not exactly. After the US govt. Took over vast areas of the West from the original indigenous occupants (usually via bogus treaties) the land was offered to white settlers. The settlers took the best land and left the mountains, deserts, etc. in federal hands. BLM, USFS, etc. manage those lands under a multiple-use mandate. Those lands belong to all of us and ranchers, farmers, timber companies, etc. should pay us fair market value to use them for commercial purposes
Federal land managers are the worst neighbors a man could have.
BTW: They are talking native groups into signing over land into "trusts" for money. The tan man once again falls prey to the federal govt.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Nah, it wasn't, much more to it than that. But the Bundies and their ilk were the worst people to "represent" it.
Yes, you're right that the arson case was the result of issues with the BLM. The Hammonds were let off with a light sentence, but the appeals court nullified that sentence and re-sentenced them to 5 years in prison to begin in January 2016. The Bundys caught wind and blew the whole thing up for their own gain.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:15 pm to slackster
quote:
Yes, you're right that the arson case was the result of issues with the BLM.
BLM had been buying private land up and the Hammond Ranch was one which refused to sell. The FedGov used less than honorable tactics to attempt to gain the property.
The problem here, is that the Hammonds were probably guilty of the charges, but the FedGov can't be held to the same standard.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:. Exactly, because those fed employees aren't managers, thyre environmentalists wacko's.
Federal land managers are the worst neighbors a man could have.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:16 pm to White Bear
quote:
. Exactly, because those fed employees aren't managers, thyre environmentalists wacko's.
Around here, this is very true.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:19 pm to stout
This is awesome. Good for them.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:21 pm to stout
Is this what's called jury nullification? I'm not big on legalese but would this qualify?
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:23 pm to boosiebadazz
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Jury nullification
I should have read before posting, thanks for clarifying this. Ya big sucking leach.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Nice use of the word ilk
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:28 pm to LucasP
Psh I probably know like so many more words than you
This post was edited on 10/27/16 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:30 pm to stout
GOOD!!
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:31 pm to boosiebadazz
Whatever bruh, I know like hundreds of words, all the good ones two.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:33 pm to LucasP
quote:
Whatever bruh, I know like hundreds of words, all the good ones two.
Your an idiot.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:40 pm to stout
#privilege
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:43 pm to stout
#WhitePrivilege
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