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ITT closing all "campuses"

Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:12 am
Posted by LSUMJ
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:12 am
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ITT Educational Services Inc., a for-profit educational company, will end operations at all ITT Technical Institutes, it announced Tuesday, blaming the federal government sanctions for the closures.

"The actions of and sanctions from the U.S. Department of Education have forced us to cease operations of the ITT Technical Institutes, and we will not be offering our September quarter," the company said. "We reached this decision only after having exhausted the exploration of alternatives, including transfer of the schools to a non-profit or public institution."

A majority of the 8,000 ITT Tech employees will lose their jobs, the company said.

ITT stopped enrolling students last week, CNN reported, after the U.S. Department of Education barred students who use financial aid from enrolling.

The Department of Education said in its blog that ITT Educational Services has been the subject of state and federal investigation for not being in compliance with accreditation standards.

"Over time, ITT’s decisions have put its students and millions of dollars in taxpayer funded federal student aid at risk. In response, over the last couple of years, we at the Department of Education have increased our financial oversight over ITT and required the school to boost its cash reserves to cover potential damages to taxpayers and students," the Department of Education's blog post stated.
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
2542 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:16 am to
Chazzy McRamzee just jizzed his pants cause no more ITT tech guys are gonna take his job
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:16 am to
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The Department of Education said in its blog that ITT Educational Services has been the subject of state and federal investigation for not being in compliance with accreditation standards
This is an odd statement bc colleges don't have to be accredited. There are many colleges in this country that are operating just fine that aren't accredited.
Posted by Kingpenm3
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:18 am to
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This is an odd statement bc colleges don't have to be accredited. There are many colleges in this country that are operating just fine that aren't accredited.



This really does sound like it was a ITT witch hunt.

I'd say the school did more good than harm, no?

Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:21 am to
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This is an odd statement bc colleges don't have to be accredited. There are many colleges in this country that are operating just fine that aren't accredited.


I think the "accreditation" they are talking about is regarding the ability to receive federal grant/loan money. Not Accreditation from a higher ed certifying organization such as SAC
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 9:23 am
Posted by JDCPA76
Member since Jul 2015
73 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:21 am to
Apparently it has to do with government loans and low graduation rates.

Government loans were about 75-80% of their income.

Can't get government loans, can't survive.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:22 am to
So, no more ITT commercials?
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:22 am to
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This is an odd statement bc colleges don't have to be accredited. There are many colleges in this country that are operating just fine that aren't accredited.

I would assume that being accredited has something to do with how much government aid and funding you get but that's just my guess
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14734 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:22 am to
Isn't the government limiting student loans to schools such as this?
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:24 am to
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Apparently it has to do with government loans and low graduation rates.


So SUNO is next right?
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:24 am to
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Apparently it has to do with government loans and low graduation rates



Good. Maybe the Feds can do us a favor and shut down 3 or 4 schools in Louisiana.
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
5454 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:24 am to
Good. If anyone in this country wants to better themselves through education they should go to community college or an actual vo-tech school. For-profit colleges are one step above title loan places when it comes to preying on people's desperation.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 9:25 am
Posted by Quidam65
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:42 am to
It is true that accreditation isn't required. But they were taking FedGov educational loans. He who has the gold, makes the rules. And when they lost the ability to tap into that "free money", they lost any chance of survival.

I doubt that few, if any, of these "for-profit" schools (DeVry, Univ of Phoenix) would be in business if it weren't for FedGov money.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:54 am to
Isn't the tuition and fees for ITT ridiculously high? We need high schools to start offering trade classes like they used to. Not everyone will be able to go to college, nor is everyone college material. The trade classes worked when I was in high school.
Posted by GeauxMatt624
Bangor, Maine
Member since Feb 2016
566 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:58 am to
Saying ITT is a college is a serious stretch
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:05 am to
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t is true that accreditation isn't required. But they were taking FedGov educational loans. He who has the gold, makes the rules. And when they lost the ability to tap into that "free money", they lost any chance of survival.

I doubt that few, if any, of these "for-profit" schools (DeVry, Univ of Phoenix) would be in business if it weren't for FedGov money.



Yep, they're all getting sued via qui tam actions on the basis they defraud the accreditation entities and violate the FCA.

This is a good thing. It sucks people are losing their jobs, but this is a painful effort that needs to happen.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:15 am to
I would love to see more community colleges and junior colleges fill the void. These smaller institutions could do a great service by expanding their computer programs and build partnerships with corporations and small businesses to create a pipeline of employment.
Posted by Napoleon
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Member since Dec 2007
69097 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:15 am to
I've know a couple of people who went the ITT route and got decent jobs from it.
No different than say Blue Cliff college or the hundreds of other for profits.

UNO just started a for profit non accredited class program.

Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:16 am to
Prayers for all the didndus that will have to find a new campus to "plan on attending in the fall".
Posted by LordSnow
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Member since May 2011
5509 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:18 am to
I have an Itt degree. I've made in excess of 100k 3 out of the last 5 years. 2 of them 160k+. The non 100k years were 90k
Education is what you make of it
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