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Is this a Mandela effect? Did Game of Thrones coin the phrase "you sweet summer child?"

Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:35 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:35 pm
I swear I've heard of people saying this for decades before the books/show came out, but when I search for an origin everything points to that being the source. Am I losing it?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:37 pm to
First I ever heard was game of thrones, but the first book is almost 3 decades old
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
United States of America
Member since Mar 2024
2437 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:38 pm to
No, it did not originate from an HBO show in the last decade, you sweet summer child...

ETA: Apparently there's books, too.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 10:39 pm
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18447 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:38 pm to
I 100% used that phrase before Game of Thrones.

Edit - It is weird that even ChatGPT says Martin invented it. According to it, there has never been a documented or written use of the phrase prior to Martin.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 10:41 pm
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:43 pm to
It’s 100% from game of thrones. Y’all are messed up in the head
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:48 pm to
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"you sweet summer child?"


My grandmother was saying it at least 50 years ago. I imagine it went back into her childhood.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28528 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:49 pm to
I swear I heard it on Seinfeld by Costanza.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6749 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:49 pm to
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It is weird that even ChatGPT says Martin invented it. According to it, there has never been a documented or written use of the phrase prior to Martin.

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The phrase “sweet summer's child" became a popular way of describing an innocent, naive person (especially among American writers) during the early Victorian era. It was used by a number of authors during the 1840s, notably:- Fredrika Bremer (1840), James Staunton Babcock (1849) in The West Wind and Mary Whitaker (1850) in The Creole.
Posted by Twincam
Member since Nov 2021
575 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:52 pm to
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Mandela effect


I know I seen that Sinbad movie as a kid.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17220 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:54 pm to
I remember it from GoT, nothing else.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
13456 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

It’s 100% from game of thrones. Y’all are messed up in the head

quote:

you sweet summer child
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
7667 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:57 pm to
No fricking chance that’s from GoT. That’s an old person saying
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4455 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 11:12 pm to
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The phrase “sweet summer's child" became a popular way of describing an innocent, naive person (especially among American writers) during the early Victorian era. It was used by a number of authors during the 1840s, notably:- Fredrika Bremer (1840), James Staunton Babcock (1849) in The West Wind and Mary Whitaker (1850) in The Creole.


And the saying was completely dead by the 20th century. No one said sweet summers child after that till Game of Thrones
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6226 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 11:24 pm to
Well you’d be right. A quick google search would tell you it’s been around since the Victorian age
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21206 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 11:45 pm to
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My grandmother was saying it at least 50 years ago. I imagine it went back into her childhood.


Yeah, I swear I heard old ladies say it when I was a kid in the 80s or 90s.

Did a quick search in some newspaper archives before I saw all the other replies, and confirm it was used in poetry in the 19th and 20th centuries long before Martin.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
694 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 11:50 pm to
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And the saying was completely dead by the 20th century. No one said sweet summers child after that till Game of Thrones
Says who? You? ChatGPT? My grandmother used that phrase my entire life.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22473 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:07 am to
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Says who? You? ChatGPT? My grandmother used that phrase my entire life.


To be fair this is literally the type of stuff people say during a Mandela Effect
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33186 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 5:35 am to
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And the saying was completely dead by the 20th century. No one said sweet summers child after that till Game of Thrones


Well, that’s not true. My grandmother said it all the time and I’ve used it on this site before I ever heard of GoT.
Posted by Mike the Tiger 1999
Weston, Florida
Member since Jul 2009
1872 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 7:10 am to
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I swear I heard it on Seinfeld by Costanza
*Kramer
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68857 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 7:16 am to
It’s the AI effect.


When I’m 70 we will be saying I swear George Washington was white. I guess it’s the Mandela effect.
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