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Is there enough wind in northeast Louisiana to support wind turbines?

Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:47 am
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:47 am
I went to a dinner where they were trying to get land owners to commit to a wind field in northeast Louisiana. I know that windmills are annoying as shite to live by but I don’t live close to my land they want to put them on. They are offering to pay staggering amounts of money in rent per windmill per year and each windmill only requires 2 acres. Does anyone know if there is enough wind in northeast Louisiana to make this project viable, or is this a developer milking government grants and the only thing I will ever see from it is that free dinner?
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:48 am to
should put them offshore but no one wants to spoil the view from Holly Beach
Posted by thejuiceisloose
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:49 am to
Some say they cause cancer
Posted by MyNameIsNobody
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:50 am to
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s there enough wind in northeast Louisiana to support wind turbines?


no, but they have a river they could made a hydroelectric dam.
Posted by Saunson69
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:51 am to
North Louisiana isn't a windy place really at all.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:54 am to
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Some say they cause cancer


Some say not having them causes cancer.. Quite the pickle.
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:55 am to
Who is they?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:57 am to
I know a landman working on some turbine deals in central LA
Posted by Shexter
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:00 pm to
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Researchers with the Center for River Studies are assisting in determining the ability of the units to be placed in locations near the Shell facilities where they will generate the most electricity while also not blocking vessel traffic. Still to be determined is whether debris carried by the river, or its sediment load, might be a limiting factor for individual units.
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no, but they have a river they could made a hydroelectric dam.


Entergy tried this in the 80's with low success. There's a hydroelectric station near Ferriday and Vidalia. The amount of floating debris in the river clogged the intakes quickly.
There's a new group currently trying it though.

https://www.nola.com/news/environment/can-the-mississippi-river-create-zero-carbon-electricity/article_f45bd2da-eb90-11ed-9f84-3fe0b9ea5deb.html



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ORPC, a Maine-based company developing equipment that can generate zero-carbon electricity from river and ocean currents, has signed an agreement with Shell Technology to use Mississippi River currents to produce power. The agreement is aimed at installing one or more demonstration projects at up to three Shell facilities between Baton Rouge and New Orleans, company officials said recently. Shell Technology is a division of the oil giant.


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ORPC may also install one of its Modular RivGen Power System units near the LSU Center for River Studies Baton Rouge water campus, where the electricity could power existing Shell electric vehicle charging stations nearby, said Nathan Johnson, ORPC’s vice president for development.

The units are turbines spun by water flowing through a horizontal structure -- sort of like an underwater windmill. They are designed to generate electricity when the water is moving through the structure at about 2 1/4 meters per second, equivalent to about 7 1/2 feet per second.

Each set of two units could produce about 35 kilowatts per hour of electricity at that flow rate, he said, enough to power 22 Louisiana homes a day. The units are modular and stackable, so 100 or more could be placed in the Mississippi to generate electricity that would be delivered to shore by underwater cables.

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Researchers with the Center for River Studies are assisting in determining the ability of the units to be placed in locations near the Shell facilities where they will generate the most electricity while also not blocking vessel traffic. Still to be determined is whether debris carried by the river, or its sediment load, might be a limiting factor for individual units.



Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:14 pm to
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Who is they?


Some wind consultant company and Entergy.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40138 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:16 pm to
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North Louisiana isn't a windy place really at all.


That’s what I said at the dinner but they said it is at the heights the windmills would be.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:18 pm to
I doubt it. It takes a lot of wind to keep those things moving and typically you want some topography assist, like being on top of a ridge. I just don't think of that area as being very windy but maybe some small units would work.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40138 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:20 pm to
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Some say they cause cancer


So does sunlight. All the surrounding landowners are for it so if the project is real and not just the consultant milking the feds for studies and proposals (which is what I think it is) I stand to make a buttload of money like legit OT mega balla money.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:23 pm to
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All the surrounding landowners are for it so if the project is real

The land owners just outside of the project will sue everyone and it will be funny the shite they say on the way to losing.
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the consultant milking the feds for studies and proposals (which is what I think it is)

There's no subsidy until the assets go in-service and then it's still only a tax rebate. The independent engineering, congestion analysis, and other several million dollars in pre-development work are paid for by the developers.
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I stand to make a buttload of money like legit OT mega balla money.

Pray you aren't in a low flight training path because the DoD will come kill the project.
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 12:24 pm
Posted by NorthEndZone
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:29 pm to
Buy land in SE Wyoming

This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 12:31 pm
Posted by HooDooWitch
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:30 pm to
On Mondays!
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:33 pm to
There are parts of NE Louisiana that have some of the highest avg wind speeds in Louisiana and that are close to West Texas avg wind speeds.

La avg wind speeds
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 12:35 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40138 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:42 pm to
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The land owners just outside of the project will sue everyone and it will be funny the shite they say on the way to losing.


The thousands of acres of land just outside the project are owned by the same people who own the land included in the project. There are a few people who own houses along a bayou bank near by. The closest town is 15-20 miles away by road (IDK how far by the crow flies).

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the consultant milking the feds for studies and proposals (which is what I think it is) There's no subsidy until the assets go in-service and then it's still only a tax rebate. The independent engineering, congestion analysis, and other several million dollars in pre-development work are paid for by the developers.


Well they might be a chance that it’s real then. In which case I will be purchasing that caribbean dream home and boat about 25 years sooner than expected.

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I stand to make a buttload of money like legit OT mega balla money. Pray you aren't in a low flight training path because the DoD will come kill the project.


We are not. They had already checked on that.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12505 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:53 pm to
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Well they might be a chance that it’s real then. In which case I will be purchasing that caribbean dream home and boat about 25 years sooner than expected.


Is there a profit share or just a straight land lease? Also, try and position yourself to get the sub-stations, thats there the real money is.
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We are not. They had already checked on that.

Don't count your chickens until they hatch. We had 20 test units up on ours and the FAA changed their mind because the DoD told them to.
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:54 pm to
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There are parts of NE Louisiana that have some of the highest avg wind speeds in Louisiana and that are close to West Texas avg wind speeds.


That map made me wonder about wind turbine heights. I did not realize they were that tall.
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