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Illegal Alien to be paid $190k by city for being turned in to immigration

Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:35 am
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:35 am
Granted that it is SanFrancisco but still, how does this happen? It isn't false arrest or excessive force, they arrested him for something he admits he is guilty of doing. He is suing solely because they arrested him.

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A man from El Salvador in the U.S. illegally who sued San Francisco after police turned him over to immigration authorities in violation of the city's sanctuary law is set to be awarded $190,000, his attorney said Thursday.
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“It’s really important for San Francisco to remain a sanctuary city not in name only but also in practice,” Hussain told The San Francisco Examiner. “Our hope is that the department is going to look into this further and really examine the way that the department can do more." Figueroa-Zarceno sued San Francisco in January for violating its sanctuary city law.



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Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
14815 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:42 am to
Sometimes I wish I was TheArrogantFlauta
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
Member since Oct 2011
37900 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:45 am to
Cut all federal funding.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18646 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:45 am to
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how does this happen? It isn't false arrest or excessive force, they arrested him for something he admits he is guilty of doing.


Because it's against San Francisco's sanctuary law for San Francisco police to arrest him on an immigration charge.

Not saying it isn't dumb, but dumb laws were passed but they're still laws so that's how this happens.
Posted by LSU Delts
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2548 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:46 am to
I think the time has come to kick California out of the union.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:47 am to
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in violation of the city's sanctuary law 


I don't even know where to start with this.

They have a law that says that a criminal is immune from laws and that criminal sued the city for the police department arresting a criminal and enforcing the laws.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26611 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:52 am to
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, his attorney said.


I think I found the problem....
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18646 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:54 am to
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They have a law that says that a criminal is immune from laws and that criminal sued the city for the police department arresting a criminal and enforcing the laws.



It doesn't say the criminal is "immune from laws." It prevents city police from enforcing federal law. State and Federal agencies can still enforce the law.

It's not like this is the only situation where this type of thing has happened. Look at the current state of marijuana laws, where at the Federal level both recreational and medicinal marijuana are illegal, yet many states have legalized one or both. Where the federal government can still penalize businesses because marijuana is schedule I, but they are forbidden from using funds to crack down with raids.

I think San Francisco's position on illegal immigration enforcement is dumb as frick. But at the same time I respect the separation of powers we have in this country. Local governments, state governments, etc. have the right to enforce or not enforce federal law as they see fit, how it fits into their budgets, etc.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85009 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:00 am to
Good for him.

If San Francisco wants to avoid asinine situations such as this, remove the sanctuary city tag.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119244 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:04 am to
Need to cut federal and state funding for this kind of behavior.
Posted by ZekeTheTeke
Member since Sep 2014
1241 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:05 am to
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Figueroa-Zarceno


Illegal: check
Hyphenated last name: check

Over the wall you go
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:06 am to
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Cut all federal funding.



And then watch the country turn into the center for terrorist cells and activity.
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3945 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:09 am to
Dumb question but if you step foot outside of a sanctuary city limits, are you then eligible to be arrested and sent back to your country of origin?
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47741 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:17 am to
Virtue signaling taken to a entirely different level. A city wide level.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17192 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:18 am to
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Need to cut federal and state funding for this kind of behavior.


A bill passed the House yesterday to enable a cutoff.

Next stop the Senate. Then POTUS will sign it.

Congress controls the purse, not the POTUS or the Courts.
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
8090 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:19 am to
Didn't take him long to find the M Bart of immigration.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:33 am to
Further proof that the people that run San Francisco (and California, for that matter) have absolutely lost their minds.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66949 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:37 am to
That dollar figure is stupid, but those cops are idiots for violating their own local law in that manner.

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The construction worker said he went to police in December 2015 after getting a call from authorities that his stolen car had been found. Instead of helping him, he said, officers detained him and called immigration authorities.

He was taken into custody by federal authorities outside the police station and was in jail for two months. He has been fighting his deportation since his release.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12104 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:37 am to
quote:

It doesn't say the criminal is "immune from laws." It prevents city police from enforcing federal law. State and Federal agencies can still enforce the law.

It's not like this is the only situation where this type of thing has happened. Look at the current state of marijuana laws, where at the Federal level both recreational and medicinal marijuana are illegal, yet many states have legalized one or both.
Following that logic, everyone that was arrested for weed possession could sue the cities/states for turning them in or for giving evidence to those authorities.

I'd love to see all of those thousands of convicts start suing the states/cities across the nation.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18646 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:40 am to
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Dumb question but if you step foot outside of a sanctuary city limits, are you then eligible to be arrested and sent back to your country of origin?



This is a city law. That means that it only prevents city police from enforcing the law. That means that if you take a step outside of the city, the city police no longer have jurisdiction to arrest you anyway.
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